Tree of Savior Forum

Let the gold sellers sell their gold

General Discussion
#21

Yes, you are correct, I have literally have no idea what I am talking about. Thanks for your pleasant, informed, and coherent response. There are literally zero bot detection systems out there that could be utilized and IMC is doing literally everything they can to stop RMT in their game. All of the other MMOs out there that have no trade or market restrictions and solid bot detection systems have ruined, awful economies and are not functioning whatsoever compared to what Tree of Savior currently has.

/s

#22

Is OP a goldseller? hahaha

#23

No, but if you read through the thread, you can easily figure out that he is saying we should remove restrictions, increase bot detectiong and banning, and let them “try” to sell gold. It was lost in translation because English is not his first language.

#24

IMC should build a wall, and make the RMTs pay for the wall.

sigh they should’ve stuck to their 3 month plan… they weren’t ready :disappointed_relieved:

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#25

Oh okay. I was unaware you were his professional translator considering he didn’t make another post after his original one. So you’re speaking on his behalf.

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#26

Yeah, people dont saw that the main point was: they will continue, and more time you spend on trying to stopping the problem instead correct the cause, that are the Bots, more we lose, because they can use all those effort on others priorities.
1 - When free play start delete a account will be like nothing. Pay2Play maybe a solution, but no one tells that.
2- People already sell Gold on facebook groups and if you search on google, at least ten pages about gold.

People are just Stup##, they want a fast solution, high punishment, but they dont know how to do it (no one tell us how, just complains and tell about punishment), and worst of all: judge other people who try to help with rude answers.

#27

The clarification was necessary considering in the original post he explicitly stated: “so, free trade, free market, free everthing, all you need to do is stop the bots and let we have fun without restrictions”.

Yes, OP is a gold seller. Because obviously he can function as a gold seller when IMC gets rid of botting. Obviously the translation is needed when your reading comprehension is at a fat 0/10.

Stop garbage posting in threads.

#28

Here, let me be an official ToS translator too!

“if IMC focus all the time in stop the bots, then gold sellers will be just people selling their efforts and nothing more, that ain’t gotta be a problem because is just IMPOSSIBLE to stop these people”.

I’m pretty sure he means stop actual botting and not stopping the goldsellers from selling their gold since they’ll always find a way around it.

And you said my reading comprehension was bad? Use some context clues from the other sentences, not just the one statement you think that proves your point.

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#29

Oh man, cmom,

yes, i’m a gold seller, and I trade with my clients with my perfect english that you’re seeing right now

Deprox translated what I tried to say in a proper english that you can understand without trolling

A truly effective way of not empowering RMT sellers would be trying to
develop an effective anti-bot system and/or using the ban-hammer
efficiently. That way, RMT sellers would actually have to WORK for
their silver (AKA manually farming like everyone else) instead of just
putting their bots to do the entirety of the work.

just re-read what Deprox posted, he says exactly what I said, but in a propely english

#30

Really? I’ll only talk about wow because thats the only one i played. Ever hear of BoP? BoE to a lesser extent.

#31

The truth is that we need to co-exist with the gold sellers, and the best way is: if you wanna sell gold, then work for it modafoca

ban the bots, that should be the main work, not restrict the translations

#32

I didnt read before posting my first post, I’ll admit that since there are posts that are idiotic all the time and i assumed.

But my last statement clearly coincides with exactly what you just said and that gold sellers will always find a way around it so just stop botting in general.

#33

FYI gold sellers dont have to bot to be gold sellers.
Anyone can be a gold seller without botting.
And if they come down harder on botting, yes it will throttle their income but they’ll still find a way around it like OP said.

#34

One thing is to try stop RMT, that’s impossible.

Another thing is to try to stop botting, that’s NECESSARY.

#35

Feel free to quote that right below your first post if you feel that my clarification would be beneficial before more people think you’re a gold seller. :grin:

#36

Yes, and that’s exactly one of OP’s points. Stop botting and gold sellers would need to resort to other methods instead of botting.

EDIT: Also, I’m somewhat of a translator IRL, OP’s primary language seems to be the same as my mother tongue, that’s why I could clarify his post. Once you go full bilingual, you can fully understand what someone that speaks one of your languages tried to say in the other. :grin:

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#38

so uh… basically
IMC should keep doing what they’ve told us they’re going to be doing?

does nobody read the news page?

#39

i’d say you have that backwards. BoP is like BoE to a greater extent.

Bind on Pickup means untradeable as soon as you pick it up.
Bind on Equip means you can carry it, trade it, whatever you like, it only binds once you use it.

i personally like FF14’s style: Bind after Fight. pickup, carry, equip, whatever… everything stays unbound until after you have a fight wearing the gear.

but to the topic at hand, what in the hell does BoP/BoE/etc have to do with any of this?

#40

This is a good idea but I have a better one. Why don’t IMC sell gold instead? IMC and players win! Problem solved right? LOL