I don’t even have the game installed, but the new cleric class caught my attention, I’m sure it will disappoint, because it’s always like that xD, but if in a remote case it doesn’t, maybe I’ll play again just to try it, but first I’ll have to see what it’s about.
I’m really, really glad that they seem to be listening now, and are fixing so many problems that the current game had with its content.
- More Raids a year, they’re aiming at 4-6, compared to the 1-2 now. This is so good for the game health.
- Simplifying the Gear System, and not making it obnoxious to learn/obtain. I’m really hopeful for the next Armor/Weapon coming, and want to see how similar they’re going to be to the Goddess Accesories (that don’t have Awakening nor Trascendence).
- More intuitive mechanics on Raid, and adding Extreme Mode for the hardcore people, but not making it mandatory.
In general, I’m happy they’re getting out of the Class Balance eternal loop and focusing on what’s more important for the game health.
In terms of the story… I really don’t hope anything out of the ordinary, but I like that the new writers seem to be more comfortable now after setting everything up since Episode 12. Episode 14 has many problems Quest-wise, but in terms of story it feels decent, I like how we’re a kind of Hero of the humans after all we’ve done, instead of just the Goddess chosen, and we have more agency on the story now, after being free of Laima’s path.
I like the new sea-themed Raid too. The sea maps are really underutilized and deserve more love. I hope we see more variety on the themes of the next raids too <3
these changes look promising, with the hack and slash patterns and extreme mode that will be added, I hope they don’t screw it up, because anything can happen xD
Llama seems lame, I prefer shepherd
nitpicking?? hahaha
i forgot this forum, imc, and people in it cant take slight criticism or even simply opinion
idk why you have to defend the artist when art is personal preference
you can praise the current designer arts all you want not that i care
or perhaps its you? oops my bad. the thing is if you ever put your works on museum not everyone gonna like all your arts, not everyone has the same taste with you dude
also im not saying its bad, its boring
i said its cheap but doesnt mean its bad, its just the result shows how high the amount of effort poured into the job, and my personal opinion of it is its kinda lacking effort
saying terramancer is maggis doesnt change anything
its only prove that the current artist overuse that terramancer design, pose, angle etcs for almost all new class master design, well except maybe that new sadhu master and thats if its not maggis lol
with this design recycle method all next master will have the same height, body length, and even perhaps gestures lol
assigning new class master to currently exist npc may be a better choice, like what happened to keraunos because there were more variety in the design of old npcs
look at all those base class master design, early class design, they have more variety, age, posing, gestures etc, they were more alive
but yeah if the current artist design is your style suit yourself, again not that i care
and about the build up you said, you may get the feel but for me personally i didnt get the build up myself, its shallow and i dont get the hype of brand new terrifying villain
again suit yourself with your own opinion
if this game current development is satisfied you enough good for you
theres really no room for imc to improve, they are untouchable and perfect
only good opinion may pass here
bad one either ignored, categorized as nitpicking, doomposting or just flagged by the holy white knights
Rexi is indeed good one, i can feel his villany vibe as well. If there is a pvc figurine of rexi human mode reading book along with his demon mode on his back, im sold.
Next to it for me sad gritta story that turn into phoenix and made me hope falconer to have phoenix birb. Though the boss kinda underwhelming.
Also that one female goddess that i forgot the name and sacrifice herself to seal demon in a cave. That was some nasty yet vary quest line mechanics rather than just boring kill x.
Sorry your sacrifice is forgotten by me, but its indeed sad story.
Thankfully my favorite goddess is lada
the depth of new stories is indeed not digged properly compare to old stories. i bet white witch story couldve been a sad one of siblings story. Yet its not even introduced properly in game, just some texts.
why am i more interested with the male character hair accessory or hair style, do we have it in game?
I don’t expect much from the story at this point, I’m just waiting for some funny plot twist to laugh at, like the Alchemist Master Vaidotas going missing to reveal himself as the Beholder this whole time and he’s been spying on the Revelator since his staged kidnapping in Miner’s Village while securing funds for his evil deeds with the potions we sell or something (probably never happening, new tutorial area skipped that possibility).
@neechan The Hair Accessory on the female character exists in-game, a Hair Accessory 1 item called Lamah but IMC hasn’t released it in a very, very long time.

The other mohawk-looking one … I don’t know, never seen it before. The male hairstyle is probably the Twoblock Male Wig.
@Blackwargreymon I’ll have fun with Llama (finally it came after so long
), time to wait half a year more and pray for Shepherd
. Jokes aside, I was meme-ing with friends about how Shepherd may be an Archer class at this rate. If IMC is finally releasing those old datamined classes IMC never bothered to release, I’m personally waiting for Mimic as well (sounds like a Scout class at this point). Meanwhile, no idea where Fortune Teller may be.
Prays in Centurion, at least Centurion class master made it into the game.
I guess no more old npc with different character model like ol man dievderbys master
Or wisemen looking paladin master
Or our favorite cheerful loli cleric master
Or the beautiful kpop idol priest master
Or master with casual clothing almost like a peasant, vaidotas
These latest class design makes all the character feels not only pose the same, seeing onto the same fixated camera, forced to stand on marked area, auditioned with requirement of same height weight and age, asked to do bare minimum expression
If the current designer based on vaidotas he/she could just use the character model from that one map where you talk to bunch of npcs for practo.
That’s enough character model for like 2 years of new class masters lmao.
I’d say commenting opinion such above as nitpicking would be a nitpicking as well.
You don’t need to find error or fault in opinion, you can take it with pinch of salt, or believe it as borderline fact given all arguments and proof provided
I’m just another believer that npc design is degrading
#bringbackmaggi #itdoesntseemaffordableforimcthough
Bonk, sad-ugh, lame-argh
Monke-Sadwho-Lemao, The Meme Trinity.

To be a little fair on IMC and their character designs (not defending or trashing IMC on this), I assume IMC’s intentions with the new character designs is that they’re probably leaning towards character designs that they feel will attract more players (attractive male/female NPCs etc). With how IMC sells Class TP packs on every new class release from Luchador onwards, I can see why IMC would think that making a younger Lama class master like that would make the class more appealing and urge players to spend on such TP packs as opposed to, lets say uh, an elderly man.
whats with elder yo, elder is dope
you sure wont buy this?
plot twist its not vaidotas, beholder disguise as tesla, welcoming saviors early game
10/10 perfect disguise
No matter only left 400 something population. Tom still says TOS is a great game. Actually his comments don’t even have any reference values.
TOS used to a great game but not anymore.
Similar one that hasn’t been rotated in the goddess cubes in quite some time. The hairstyle is in game though.
Honestly any of those very old data-mined ones are fine. Mimic when though
Long time no see, are you still playing musket? I was happy they finally axed serenity but feel like they made it worse with the expected playstyle of grooving. Feel like it would have been better as a normal buff even if still had the same drawbacks it has now.
I think there are some okay criticisms of the newer art (sprite stuff moreso), but I also don’t mind them re-using really cool NPCs like Owynia. Would have been nice to have her reintroduced into the story somehow, but I don’t see the problem with using her in general.
Maggi’s art also had its own set of problems, I just wish the newer artists would do their own thing more and less of the weird somewhere between their own style and somewhere trying to emulate the worst parts of Maggi’s style. What I mean is, the newer artists are really good–if you downloaded that DLC you can see for the goddess cube art it’s really nice and unique and I don’t see why they’d do the weird “Maggi art style but super sterile with random elongated features” like some of the other more recent master art.
Quest apart, they seem still don’t have clue to make sub quests interesting for the players (only putting sub quests as side story of the main quest or just straight giving you EXP cards).
But after trying out Archaeology & Arcanum, I hope that they would give us sub-quests/achievements regarding those new contents, while making the material acquisition simpler (through aforementioned sub-quests).
Door raid & Memory of flame are chill raids, I like them. Probably they can add some backstory & tutorial out of new raid (like they did on Heroic Tale tutorial).
im fan of maggi art in fact the reason i played tos was the game art style
but im not taking side of these npc portrait polemic
but im just shows my own finding and my opinion about it
and yeah… a little bit compasion to maggi`s art
some maggi design not shown here has some similaritis here and there but there just seems to be more variety and creativity in my opinion
and i dont think opinion about it worth called “nitpick” because even the smallest aspects stacks up to bigger issue, and you cant handle bigger one when you cant even handle small one
and video games is all about video and games, where video involves arts like how i played this game mainly because i love maggi arts style
good grief that lama use old design character model as i loved it as well. Im just gonna be blatant honest that im not big fan of low research class like what they did to sadhu special costume. they couldve just give agota hanska costume as special costume rather than green sadhu out of nowhere just to follow green as class theme rather than class lore and originality
You realize that a few of the ones you posted as “bad examples” are also Maggi’s art right?
wow…
i guess you didnt read what the other here mentioned above about art
art is personal preference
i never talk about which art is good or bad
this is like repeating the debate between that tomguy and berserkman lol
i was just showing how the designing done for both artist, how the current designer designing in such strict boring design pattern while maggi had more freedom in explore character expression gesture and such.
when did i ever say the result bad for both? really, if i had to say explicitly, the result of current designer still ok but it become repetitive, or somebody already said it become boring
you can expect the next master npc to be standing in same posture, with body like its leaning, head tilt in same degree, and pretty much same facial expression.
To put it simply, maggi was fashion show with lots of models to wear the costumes, while the current designer only have 1 newbie model who can only do the same posing with little variety lol.
That clown is an example of dirt job
He just flip the “main pattern” horizontally and start drawing from there lol
To be fair, it may not only the designer fault
It could be the writer lead, main design lead, ktos players preference, or it could be about effort equal price which makes the designer shows lack of effort in the design because of underpaid
So blame imc as the image would need sorta approval, and if it passed it could probably mean ktos satisfied with it, like tom who seems triggered getting his fav game or fav artist criticized lol
Also glad I’m not the only one who think sadhu special costume is mere joke Nice meme lmao.
What keyword to get that image, like bullied sadhu? Rofl
I believe they’re saying that some designs you show as “current designer” are also done by Maggi, not a different designer, and it’s the same artist you admire on the old days that’s doing the mistakes you are showing in the “new designs”.
Also, I have the impression that the new Sadhu costume was recicled from something else, because it doesn’t have anything related to the Class. They’re too fairy-like, the female one even more.




