KToS General Thread v5.0

[mic01851165]

Yeah have to admit I misread that part.

[pulgasxiii]

hmmm any idea whats the VVR item class for the new NakMuay effect?

[7aniki]

why DS5 becoming a benchmark? i got much much more debris in DS3 runs rather than my DS5 runs.

from https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=2093

Stage

[Lv2] Vaivora Transmutator

Stone Debris of Divine Power

1

Obtain 1 by chance of 10%

Obtain 1 by chance

2

Obtain 1 by chance of 15%

Obtain 1 by chance

3

Obtain 1 by chance of 25%

Obtain 1 by chance

4

Obtain 1 by chance of 50%

Obtain 1 by chance, additional 1 by lower chance

5

Obtain 1 by chance of 80%

Obtain 2 by chance

[Lostac]

I’d like to know about this too

[Skykyrie]

If you are whining about how new players/newbies will have a harsh time getting the gears because they couldnt use Flagbot as farming character…

There will be another Season Server and they can progress up ahead there easier. They can bring their friends to play with another Steam account in Season Server to help them progressing, while these friends will get the benefit of having another account to feed silver on the account on old server later when merged.

Because there is no way someone fresh to this game can progress far ahead without spending money to buy premium things, using RMT, buying Steam account, or a real masochist.

[Hillgarm]

@akanechan

The most useful skills, to the toilet, in exchange for more random ones that uselessly fill our bar of shortcuts. Of course, I don’t point further because I could be here until tomorrow for nothing. The truth is, this game makes less and less sense, it seems that not even the developers know what they are doing.

A lot of them are weird but changing self buffs into active skills is a good thing, they have multiplicative power/potential by default and it makes no sense if they don’t have a downside or downtime.

@akanechan

They should rethink the relocate, REDO, create each class in an arm that does not depend on the concept, but on the main power (Magic, Physical and Projectile); Once that is done, divide classes between DPS (in turn, elementals in the Magic group, type of weapons in Physical and Projectile), Protection (tanks and provocateurs - magic tanks, physical tanks, tanks against projectiles …), Healer (magical healers, true doctors in the last cases, specialized in the type of wound), Support (for each previous type of each branch) and Debuffer (the same as Support, but causes negative states to enemy that benefit a certain element, certain wounds made with certain weapons, etc. ) in a balanced way (the same number equally).

In the end we would thus have 3 main branches (Magic, Physical, Projectile), which in turn would each have its five types clearly defined by the color of the class icon (DPS, Protector, Healer, Support and Debuffer), which in turn, it would have its subcategories and specialties (by magic element, physical weapon or projectile weapon used, enemies to attract and damage to cover, etc.)

That should have been done right after rebuild, that patch never felt truly complete as a fix for the class system.

I’d say a better split is in Offense, Support (buff, healing, tank and multiplication/weakness debuffs) and Control (aggro management, displacements and incapacitation debuffs) and the mix of two, that’s a total of 6 which can cover almost everything and ensure no class just does it all (also just 6 colors to use). In an ideal scenario we would have at least two full magic branches but the only candidate for that is Cleric that can barely try it by sacrificing the thematic of its physical classes.

Up until this patch, the only thing i could never complain about IMC way to design classes was that they really tried to express classes themes even if they took an unusual element or approach, but new onmyoji and clown are… off, to say the least. Like really, of all things a clown could do they only gave it dagger throwing, dagger juggling and dancing… i don’t know, perhaps something like a channeling taunt with an annoying toy/instrument, use other clown accessories like balloons, pins, darts, hoola hoops or just some skill that copies a skill used (by you or on you).

@akanechan

But I am nobody, nobody in this forum is listened to in this kind of thing;

Yeah… i get ya…

[skywing22]

@Hillgarm

Like really, of all things a clown could do they only gave it dagger throwing, dagger juggling and dancing… i don’t know, perhaps something like a channeling taunt with an annoying toy/instrument, use other clown accessories like balloons, pins, darts, hoola hoops or just some skill that copies a skill used (by you or on you).

I do think the intention of the class is more like a Jester, than a generic Clown we all know though. Does a generic clown even loves fighting?

[draconis]

@crevox

After Medzio Diena, the army of the Kingdom felt the need for snipers.

And they didn’t give them the “HEADSHOT!” skill…

@crevox

Clown is a dagger class that attacks targets by throwing daggers at a distance.

Hmm seems like “Clown” was not the most appropriate name for that class then…

Knife throwing

@crevox

Clown Walk: Cheating Box

Or maybe it was… lol.

@crevox

Bokor is a dark attribute class that attacks opponents with buffs/debuffs

Oh my… Bokor back to its fully glory as a contender for a class in a dark mage build. I’m still not impressed with Shadowmancer in my build, maybe I’ll go back to Bokor when this comes to iToS… or at least try the class again. Feels like a totally new class.

@crevox

The Upper Level skill has been removed and replaced with Flame Level.
The Begone Demon skill has been removed and replaced with Destruction.

Useless skills replaced by useful skills. I like that… but this means lack of points to take everything and choices will have to be made.

@crevox

Reiforcement has a chance to inflict additional damage to enemies when Fire, Ice, or Lightning damage is dealt while the buff is active. The extra damage dealt is the same property as the damage that triggers the effect.

I was expecting a nerf, but that’s actually a good change. Most of the skills used with Taoist in a build are fire/ice/lightning anyway (unless you use a build like Kino-Onmy-Tao).

@crevox

Eradication: Transfer has been changed to increase final damage instead of reducing the skill’s overheats. Crevox Note: I think they might have mixed this up with Divine Punishment?

Or they will increase final damage but reduce skill overheats to compensate… I think they simply forgot a part of that sentence (“Eradication: Transfer has been changed to increase final damage instead of reducing – it, but in exhange we reduced – the skill’s overheats.”)

@crevox

The more stacks of [Sadhu Soul] you have, the stronger the additional effects are on skills.

Seems like the game is now based on buffs and debuffs since all classes have that and all bosses have gimmicks using stacks too. Less beginner friendly, you now have to learn to manage your stacks of buffs/debuffs constantly.

@crevox

The effect of Rod Mastery has been changed to convert a certain percentage of Dagger weapon attack to Magic Attack when equipped with both a Rod and a Dagger.

Lol what is this nonsense… Who the hell thought that a Wizard should use a dagger now? Imagine the poor guys like me who started since day 1 a wizard with a rod/shield and cloth set, taking Quick Cast skill from the Wizard class to be able to cast Elementalist skills faster. Got hit by re:build already, and now I would need to re-equip with a staff, a trinket and a leather set, replacing one of my classes with the useless Chronomancer choice in the process… Which class uses rods anyway now apart from Cryomancer?

@crevox

Elementalist, which previously used 4 attack properties, has been updated to use 3, excluding Earth.

Good change. If you want to use Earth attacks, Terramancer is there now.

@crevox

Storm Dust has been changed to Blizzard Storm as an Ice attribute skill.

FREEZING SPHERE!
I knew it was a bad idea to remove the skill in the first place…

@crevox

Lightning Orb generates lightning crystals while casting, and after finishing casting, they will fly toward enemies in front of you dealing damage.

Ooh this looks great! Which boss uses that attack I don’t remember… Mirtis?

And another class with now all-attack skills demanding to make choices…

@crevox

Rune Caster becomes a class that can use Earth, Psychokinesis, and Non-Property attack attributes.

Hmm isn’t there something that increases those properties already? Ah yes… Genbu Armor! So a synergy with Onmyoji then…

@crevox

Rune of Giants has been removed and replaced with Rune of Repulsion.

RIP Mario…

@crevox

Onmyoji has also been updated to a Wizard that uses Earth, Psychokinesis, and Non-Property magic like Rune Casters.

Well it’s now explicit…

@crevox

Fire Fox Shikigami has been removed and replaced with the Psychokinesis Shikigami skill.

Does this mean the attribute will be changed too? Sounds logical to remove the fire property on synergy with Kino skills and enhance those instead…

All in all those changes are really cool. This makes the Wizard class having four separate subclasses now: summoners, dark mages, elemental mages, non elemental mages. The only trans-subclass remaining synergy is Ice Wall + Psychic Pressure, but otherwise I would clearly see a Kino-Onmy-RC build now instead of Cryo-Kino-Onmy. If not even adding Terramancer in the build instead.

@crevox

Running Shot is a buff skill that improves the effectiveness of Crossbow basic attacks with Swift Step active.

They’re bringing back all goodies lol. Soon we’ll see “Sleep” back

@jojosudito

aaaaaaw we lost a summoner in bokor remake

Yes, only two summoner classes left, meaning you need to pick something else in the meantime. I suppose every summoner was using FF instead of Bokor anyway no? (main summoners should be more useful here).

[Velthari]

Out of all the names they could have picked for the class clown is the worst one. They could have gone with Jester, Joker, Phantom anything but clown because if the class is bad I’m going to feel like a clown once I pick it.

[Femart]

트리 오브 세이비어

Part 3 : New content, system and reorganization.

[Femart]

Put something on the left wasn’t enough.
Now they want to create a place on the right.

[rivayir]

New Equipment Slot [ Relic ]
Vibora weapon’s maximum level has been expanded to level 4 .
The maximum level of Demon and Goddess-class armor has been expanded to level 3 .
Basic arc maximum level expansion and new arc 1 type added

More is more, I guess.

I think we already have more options to strengthen gear than maps in Tree of Savior.

[softwhitetissue]

As if farming for different pve and pvp sets weren’t enough.

[4lkruzeth]

Part 3 : New things for you to spend on, just in case you bought everything already.

[Femart]

The translation is really bad, but, from what I can get, this means something like:
“If you do not performe as well as the average of your team mates in CM, you will be penalized on how much Silver you get”.

WTF?! IMC, do you really want new players? Or alts to even exist?
Edit: It says this is implemented for auto-matched CMs. Ok, but the point remains.

[Blubbolo]

goddess/demon armor level 3, vvr leve l4, if you do no dmg in cm and get an high level player yo uget less silver.

gg.

[mic01851165]

Honestly was quite disappointed about Clown.

I was expecting some more unique mechanic/ buff that’d be provided by Clown.
Instead, it looks like a full dps class with almost every single skill being dagger attack skills.
Even the debuff is like for clown exclusive skills.
There’s no self buff that synergize with other weapons / class too.
Seems like this Clown thing is a pure dps class for dagger , and can only go along with dagger.

That disappoints me immeasurably, even though they could make the attack modifier sky high with this new class. (I doubt it though)

[skywing22]

I will consider [Pocket Knife] unique enough gameplay for a class. Still details of it still needs to be surfaced first.

[mic01851165]

Wtf this is very very bad.

Now end game is scaled base on multiple Demon / Angel.
These Angel sets already turn the game into one trick pony to fix a class by making 1 skill OP…

[mic01851165]

So support priests will now always get lowest silver?

Who wants to play priests now?