play what you want but if you fail cos a single target dps class can’t do the job of an aoe class in DS5, dont start spreading lies that you need a full glacia +16 set because it not true at all.
Soon on the Klaipedia stairs when clown is out:
Ofcourse you dont need full set +16 glacia
You just need the very best meta builds in the game
:popostonks:
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I guess it will be like ardito - dagger class, and some skill that don’t actually use a dagger at all but still require it.
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its literally not a meta class but a budget wizard build, no need big investment in gear and such like shadow/summoner, and pala cleric isnt exactly meta either, but ok.
there were party doing it with a cryo, that’s not even close to meta.
still, you can clear DS5 with rubbish varna gerar, point proven.
if you want anything being possible to clear with an alchemist/scout version of it, then idk what to tell you.
Man are you really serious…
yes.
just log in on any given server and you can see that.
Is no one going to mention the Clown class form RO? I guess that would be the most related thing, so my guess is a buffer class like it was in RO
Talking about gear requirements for DS5 when there are people who kick others out of DS5 simply for not having an optimal class build 
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The only way IMC can surprise me is if Clown is an Archer class and Arquebusier is a Scout class, Clowns playing with animals and Musket-wielding Arquebusiers mounted with SR skills.
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bring back bragi pls.
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First thing that came to my mind as I saw the name of the class too. However, in the background story of Clown master, it says something about the master himself being a battle-holic and enjoying in fighting, so there might be little likelihood of Clown being a support class. (Description could mean nothing, though.)
I think Scout needs more offensive classes, not support ones. And an “all weapons” one, more like Corsair and Rangda.
I agree with the point where the Scout tree is generally weaker than SW or Wizard ones. Not on being useless, but dealing less damage. And I hope, with this new class, they will push some Scout buffs. Specially for the offensive classes.
About the Arquebusier. I thought, before the official announcement, this would be a class that supports both cannon and musket. I see the Archer tree with a problem of variety. Almost like SW, with too many non-compatible classes in the same tree. In the Archer tree, most of the time, you choose the first 2 classes because of the weapon and then the 3rd as a support, most of the time Appraiser, Falconer or Hunter. I don’t know how to explain, but I think having the option to go “full offensive”, like Ranger-Mergen-Fletcher, even if not “the best”, is good for the health of the game.
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We also have Pied Piper already.
This definitely will be different imo. RO’s clown starts from bard that’s why it’s a music class and support.
I think it will be more debuff if anything with tricks and stuff rather than buff but we will see I’m just guessing.
Musket is saved? 
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TBH I think Archer doesn’t lack variety.
It has some useless class, but you really can go all dps setup like Mergin Fletcher Ranger because of the recent passive buff change. Ranger has BOTH 40% proj dm AND 50% crit damage, Fletcher has 20% increased damage AND 50% crit rate . Not to mention both classes have some really good attack skills to add into rotation.
If you don’t to go all dps, swapping out one for Falcon / Appraiser is great too.
Basically archer is in the category of “having too many good classes to choose” so they have to actually choose instead of forcing into one setup like Scout does.
main Musket 3 class
main Cannon 2 class
main Crossbow 2 class
main Bow 1 class
good equality?)
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I think you are telling the truth. A well coordinated team of 5 with at least half a years worth of f2p early-endgame farmed gear (nothing past Drakonas, Varna gear below +12 and/or +15, maybe a boruta seal just for argument sake, no Arkstone, no VV, ect.) can probably pull out a win with 5-10 seconds on the clock.
However most likely if you are geared like that and have no friend clique or standings within a guild, you better hope to be a 100% support build and not get kicked when a better support joins the whale’s calling.
This is the most accurate representation of the minimum requirements for DS5. You can see the actual DPS of the group at minute 7:05 and low and behold it’s a wizard with full channeling + an arkstone who carried with 5 seconds remaining.
If anyone would like to show evidence of a full f2p group doing DS5, I’d love to see it.
My personal experience is I feel like trash as dps scout even with +16 glacial, lv2 borutal seal, full Savi Dysnai without full set of Goddess Ichor (Only have 1 atm due to high price) as SR with art 30 on both Limacon and lightning hand and all 100 attributes on skills.
So I join as a full flag now in hope that the whale don’t kick me. I’d rather just support the whales until I get enough money to turn into whale myself zz.
Not picking Wiz when I start the game is prob my biggest mistake.
Yeah feel free to join with Verna as dps Scout, I’m sure you’re being useful/ wanted.
With that in mind, they’re going to force auto que and increase monster hp and decrease time in DS in ep13 contents, which is suppose to be even harder than ep12 DS5 lolz.
And they claimed that normal players can do it while queuing with random leechers.
+16 glacia, boruta seal 3, full 4 st oath, swift ark, max everything
only can do ds3 :barongpat:
S/N : Well to be fair, SR isnt really the class for AOE lel but still. Imagine other weaker classes.
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the clown can be the version of diev or sapper that works with installation for the scout xD.