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KToS General Thread v5.0

If people in kToS/kTest do not stop this lameful change, we will be able to expect ToS Closure News on 2021.

Hi guys, can someone translate these neww CM/Sing changes from ktos patch notes?

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aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh IMC come on where’s cleric patch???

Cryo mastercard :tired:

Ktos… remember, all changes are made only taking into account ktos … ALL … it does not adapt anything (only when it is to put free content inside a paid cube)

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@Hillgarm i fail to see the correlation between releasing 40 CM reset and 10 DS voucher daily WITH IMC destruction, care to elaborate?
The way i see it, it will burned out most of the greediest players they quit of exhaustion, leaving non-greed player. Similar to O2, just because every plant in the earth release an abundance of O2 everyday, doesnt mean you will be dead if you dont breathe-in all of the released O2 of that day. Just take what you need, not what you greed.

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Did you tag the right person? Seems like it was supposed to be tom, i was just liking some comments/memes here and there. I’m a little behind on these new copy-paste/recycled remix content they added so i won’t dare to (i also don’t trust google translation).

The only thing i can say for sure is that you can’t put the greed into the player side. IMC has been pushing and pushing more the equipment grind fiesta (which is kinda all the game has now, content wise), people just want to catch up and play the game with at least one character, which is only possible if you hit the stat check mark.

Perhaps it’s something about excessive competition unbalance, more ways to bind people into playing for more without making new content, newbie/returnee alienation/barriers and induce people into buying more TP or whatever.

No translation? @crevox Please Thank you.

how do yo ufail to see it?
you wont be able to craft singularity multitoken unless you get them from leticia cubes as the new cm resets will be timed.
you will not be able to decide to take cm resets and do that, if you wanna do that, when you feel like, hoarding all the week or more and then doing them when you feel like, they will be timed 1 day.
you wont be able to get cm resets from badges and use it to do singu, because that’s the only use those have right now anyway.

but wait, you can just buy leticia cubes and get all the singu resets you want.
if you still fail too see it, then ok, kek.

also, greediest players? wow.
a company restrict your ability to do content unless you pay, with real money, for their cash cubes and the greedy ones are the player?

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@Hillgarm thats why i tagged you, because i know we can have civilized discussion, not like lordknight which just resorting at [you dumb! no you dumber] kid level provocation.

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Are you just trolling or what?

So if this week i don’t want to do 40 cms or can’t i should just pass it, and lose it instead of keeping those? Why?
There’s no reason for this change, none whatsoever.
This is forcing ppl to “do a daily quota” you oh so like to spur around, let me keep it, I’ll choose when do it, if i wanna do it.

Let’s talk about singularity:
Its not about the 100% of loot and you know it and you are just trolling at this point or run out of argument and the next will be “no u” memeface.jpg.

F2p will basically do less than half of what someone paying will do and stop with the daily quota bullshit already.
Its a game, it has content to do, i should be able to do it for how many run I want unless its timed as raids and not being blocked by how much real money you spend.
Wanting to play a game and then getting told that i will have less entry, less 2x token and less ability to choose what to do with my cm reset, because i won’t be able to choose between singu or normal, useless, cms, unless i pay its stupid and greedy as ■■■■.

TL;DR=

  • A change no one asked for.
  • A change that will limit people choices, since cm resets will timed and timed can’t be used for singu.
  • A change that block you from playing unless you pay.
  • A change that will create a even more large gap between paying whale and F2p not only on everything loot related but by silver too with the removal of silver from maps.

Now you can whiteknight the ■■■■ out of this to defend imc and blaming people with the usual “daily quota and burn” no sense you use everytime this things happen.

No, i am not trolling. Let me ask you a simple question, if they release 40 cm reset (1day) per DAY, you will absolutely do 40 cm a day too?

And again it’s not about the number.
It’s about being timed.
Timed means you can’t choose what to do with it nor when.
Get it already.

Ok that’s the proof you are trolling as you won’t even talk about the pink elephant in the room but moving the discussion on something totally stupid just to prove nothing.

And also i dunno maybe, maybe not, still not the point.

Do or not do is up to you. But I’m talking about the patch’s intention in the first place.

Let me get this right. The very purpose of this patch was, to counter multi-account funnels problem in ktos. I wont exactly assume it does happens here but you know it yourself. Question is, does the impact of the change really aimed to solve the problem on the table? Incase you do not know, the original amount of CM reset and DS entry you can get at ktos is as follow.

70 CM per week, 7 DS per week

Which however you like, you are able to control where the CM resets goes and obviously we want it to go into DS as its faster to clear and much relevant reward at the first place.

Now I wont go into the yields after the change, which obviously is decreased, because we have a bigger problem on the table. Starting by looking at the potential routine run weekly you have to make in order to stay as relevant as possible, be noted, as a casual F2P player. The current routine in our server is as follow

9 DS per week with token which means 18 DS yields
Daily CM entry and extra 2 CM resets by the end of the week

and if we look at the proposed change in ktest it is

10 DS per week without token which means 10 DS yields
Daily CM entry + 40 CM resets

You can look for yourself and see the time required to clear “weekly content” rose significantly. Not to mention the removal of token means having token from leticia will further give you the edge of doing things faster.

As if the rich isn’t getting richer, and the casuals are getting left further behind. And by how they currently push the height of power-creeping the raids, don’t you think the game is going to server smaller and smaller amount of people that would care to even “follow the pace”?

Oh yeah, back to the topic on how well did the objective of this change hits its target. I mean literally, its been like this for the past few changes IMC tries to make.
Lets remove field silver, normal player suffers.
Lets make weekly harder, normal player suffers.
Lets make goddess grace fund the top player more, normal player suffers.

I believe you can tell how did it fair yourself now.

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i don’t like this cm 1 day , it is waste of time for me doing normal CM , i mean with ds + multiply i can burn cm reset very fast

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I just hope those KTest/KTos players are disagreeing with that CM nerf. Like what the F?

Sometimes we all just cant play all day and night because if IRL problem. Now they make it so we HAVE to do it?

Pretty crazy eh?

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imc should give 600 cm rs (1 day) in shop, so you can understand whaty 7a want to say, lmao.

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Now I understand what is the patch all about. Hope ktest/ktos wont pursue this.

Oh man the new patch holds a gun to your head and forces you to play?
kToS is getting crazy these days

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