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KToS General Thread v5.0

IKR.:man_shrugging:t4:
With the guild ore sack it would be at least less painful… it’s still painful tho… but yeah :woozy_face:

They will be easier to get soon

Boxes give Wander Armor or Recipe
4 Color Rock is Arch Stone Fragment. 10 = 1 Arch Stone

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ah yes more lottery, such an innovative way for us to get material

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still stupid update
//20 character

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This isn’t a solution and 100% of the problem…

I don’t understand why the developers think gacha grace is a valid solution to obtain rare materials. The whole concept is completely devoid of any meaningful game play.

It makes no sense and feels completely awful. I have never in my life played a game as completely out of touch between developers and gamers as this game. Unbelievable.

It’s like the developers do not understand how to keep players engaged and reward them for playing. Instead they put things behind tp cubes and random in-game gacha. Why not develop meaningful progression and rewards? How hard is it to understand that gambling after you’ve completed content for your ā€œrewardsā€ is horrible? Is it too much to ask for game play with a reward system that makes sense, instead of just gacha for everything?

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is it true that our varna set will be converted to lvl 440? but upgrades and trans are reset to 0?

Varna equipment is not being changed.

I don’t think developers are required to clear their own content but if a party of dedicated players can’t clear the easy version with insane gear I feel like they didn’t test it at all… and if it only sits on ktest for a week before hitting ktos that’s embarrassing. ā€˜It is in beta guys they’re gonna fix it’ not with 1 week to receive feedback and implement changes.

I’d guess some of the raid numbers get adjusted but it won’t soften the blow of this update- and if it isn’t changed then we’re looking at lepi hard super hard where an even smaller portion of the players engage with the content.

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what is the cons of playing on ktest?
it has all the latest equipment (mostly in selection box already)
infinite diamond anvil

its for content creators and tubers XDDD

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  1. The player literally fights more than half an hour without Dievdirbys statues, proving that Bong plainly sucks at supporting/healing. The Hunter is also using Smugis set effect, very questionable decision. (I personally dislike Smugis overall, less DPS than Ataka)

  2. kTOS is still living the old meta ā€˜Priest-Diev-Oracle’ for support build when Kabbalist and Oracle are currently meta for Moring HM and most likely the same for Glacier Legend Raid.

  3. ->Templar/Peltasta, i hope that’s a joke. @Ennislol runs his Moring HM party with 3 Archers, one of them tanking proving that you literally don’t need a swordsman, much less a tank.

  4. The only scary mechanic looks to be Pizza (at least it doesn’t have pineapple) and Hearts, with the right builds you can clear this raid in probably half that time.

They DPS through most of Witch mechanics without much trouble, looks way easier than Moring HM, but not having a Kabbalist is yikes, not just in terms of healing(Ein Sof) but Gevura is simply really good.

TL;DR:
Take that video with a grain of salt.

Bong is not part of this fight. This is not his Youtube channel, and he’s not playing in the party at all. Someone is in a guild named Bong, but that is not him.

This is subjective and debateable.

This is not true. Kabbalist is meta in KTOS, and is used to defeat the unique raid thanks to Ein Sof. However, Ein Sof was nerfed greatly in KTEST, so they chose to use Dievdirbys instead.

The healer is an Oracle.

This is not Moring HM.

Both Dievdirbys and Gevura are strong. Exchanging one for the other has multiple merits and demerits, and would not simply cause the raid to be a success.

You don’t know any of the mechanics.

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Why do people think we don’t use our Wizard to tank?

It’s totally possible considering there’s parties with no swordsman at all for Moring HM. Which proves my point even further that tanks are not required for such ā€˜hard raids’ like Moring HM.


LMAO, isnt that a guild name? not player name

I see… I also should have seen that coming. :slight_smile:

Agreed. This only encourages RMT and bots, as we can see with all the reports on forums from Telsai. Fortunately, we don’t have these back on Fedi. Yet.

So let’s look at the lottery and make a quick approximative calculation, supposing that we only play the lottery to get the mats. For one Archenium, we need: Mystic Tome Page x20, Goddess’ Blessed Gem x20, Practonium x10, Archistone Fragment x1. Let’s suppose the chance to get each item is constant per grade and each grade has 1/10 the drop rate of the previous grade (white: 1/1, blue: 1/10, red: 1/100, yellow: 1/1000), and we don’t get any bundles.

Mystic Tome Page: 20 at 1/40 drop chance = 80 mil silver
Goddess’ Blessed Gem: we need 200 shards at 1/4 drop chance + 20 recipes for crafting = 81 mil silver
Practonium: 10 at 1/40 drop chance = 40 mil silver
Archistone Fragment: 1 at 1/400 drop chance = 40 mil silver

Result: to craft one Archenium using only the lottery, it would roughly require on average a whoopy 241 mil silver.

(/browses back up)

Ok the armor is crafted with Archenium, but no mention about how many they require. I hope it’s just one per piece.

You only need 1 per piece, and there are no other materials required.

Goddess’ Blessed Gem: we need 200 shards at 1/4 drop chance + 20 recipes for crafting = 81 mil silver

whaaaat? what kind of calculation is that?
cheap 20 BG is through 4days of 5x1000 merc badge (2 runs of uphill VH+bonus).
81m silver… i really really worried if i have Consigliere like you which giving risk assessment via lottery way instead of optimal way. hehe

What is that new chest box on the right beside the Justice Arch stone?

If you have everything there’s nothing to play for