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KToS General Thread v4.0

So then what is Con even going to do?

give crippling depression :rofl:

ok that was a litle dark, we need to wait only 20 more days and hopefully less for more info, so lets hang in there until then, but not too tightly :smile:

I agree that optimizing is needed but new content and updates are also necessary. I mean to keep players at all playing the game they have to keep them somehow interested.

Also adding new classes and changing rank system may very well make the game a lot more enjoyable to many. While it doesnā€™t remove some of the issues thereā€™s no reason to downplay the importance and fun factor of new updates.

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How can you enjoy if the core works horribly.How can you enjoy your new toy if the battery is almost dead and your toy is going on and off?With huge lag spikes and bugs makes the game not enjoyable to me at least

Tell me what will you do that is fun when they are finish making new classes (and they will eventually).They are only holding players by new classes or reworks of classes and ranks and TP shopā€¦there is no real optimization nor no real end game.

I would appreciate TOS more if they fix the fundamentals.All you guys are doing is playing what I called is ā€œThe Simsā€ game just making alts after alts to try out all kind of builds and gearing them all.

I wouldnā€™t mind if they close TOS for a year or more to get a better engine for the game to run nor if we all had to restart from 0.IMC loss a lot veterans players because they donā€™t fix the old bugs and that the game still not fully optimized.The population of TOS increases when new classes are introduced or a rework of some sort but in weeks the returnees quit again and go dormant.

I am aware that the staff that are responsible for classes,TP merchandise arenā€™t responsible for the game optimization but all the money resources they get are still being use to pump out more TP junk and more classes instead of hiring people to get the optimization dream.

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Amen brother, agreed 1000%

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soā€¦ after this changes we will have like not more but less choices? :smiley: and ā€¦still game runs like ā€¦meh

Maple story 2 > tos QQ

P. Block and M. Block

Untrue, because the goal of this update is to make current low tier classes equivalent to current high tier.
That opens a lot of options that never actually existed due to these classes being garbage.

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ohhhh What about Hidden Classes? I really want a character focused on nak/shinobi

More meaningful choices >> More choices

Whatā€™s the point of having 7 ranks if only the last 3 ones matters?

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Since their goal is to make a horizontal advancement tree that puts every class at the same level, my expectation is that hidden classes will need to be more fleshed out. So theyā€™ll get fuller scaling (going the full 45 class levels instead of just 15) and also get more abilities.

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So the lower classes will be buffed so they can be at same.level of rank 10, that is it?

I think thatā€™s not quite the right way to think about it because if everything were brought up too much then everything would be really overpowered. To make everything comparably strong I think that lower rank classes would be made stronger, but high rank classes would also have to be made weaker. The overall total power level of your character should remain similar. That is my expectation (or perhaps hope).

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The way I think this would work is like this:
-You have a base lvl and class lvl
-Each class will have a a Base lvl scaling and a Class scaling
-Each class will add a certain stat/stat factor
-Each skill will be influenced by both lvl. being either on Duration/damage/effect power/etc
This will make every class feel powerful depending on your current base lvl and the class lv itself. So if Iā€™m a 200 base lvl 45 Retiarius for example I wont be that powerful as a base lvl 350 lvl 45 retiarius. That way every class should be balanced around not only the skill power itself.

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Which is pretty much what MP2 is doing from scratch.

People have to remember that MP1 doesnā€™t have PVP EVEN TODAY because they canā€™t balance it.

I agree that maybe TOS2 would be a better option to solve all problems. But MP2 is too much casual ā– ā– ā– ā–  and feels like playing minecraft with the sims.

If people want TOS to be MP2, Iā€™m outta here. TOS needs to be an isometric Dark Souls (which is something they are also failing to achieve).

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Thatā€™s one of the many things the upcoming Dev Blog will be discussing.

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I see you know stuffā€¦ :thinking:

Queue likes to poke around places too obvious for the common derp :smirk:

i hope so.
I canā€™t wait to see miko and Shinobi as a full class

You can do some pretty fun and absurd class combinations in theory already.

Iā€™m just happy Iā€™ll be able to combine all my favorite clerics into one build finally.