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kTOS General Thread v2.0

Full dex will have double the crit attack as your physical attack from going Full Str, HOWEVER. Str physical attack is multiplied by 1.5 when you crit, in the end the difference between full STR and full DEX is only 33% in favor of dex, HOWEVER. if weapon attack is high enough the difference becomes NEGLIBLE. literally can have over 3k weapon attack on one handed weapons without much problem, wich will make the difference between 200-600 attack of full str vs full dex mean pretty much nothing. if you have 80%~100% crit rate then yes full dex, but anything lower than that would say that STR for more consistent non crits would be the best.

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did you test other skill’s crit dmg for full dex and full str?

cuz backstab has a hidden factor that scale with crit att really well for some reason, remember that topic about gem update and backstab? 400 crit dmg turn in to like 30k dmg.

i already calculated both front backstab and backbackstab (50% bonus damage).
that ones is the easier to look at numbers but the same happened with the slash thingy from hacka whose name i keep forgetting and storm bolt.

if you give me a moment i can show non crit vs crit screenshots.

you can just test on archer skill has one shot and no CDs, which is much easier I guess.

skarphugging 10k to 30k.
heavy shot 2.9k~3k to 7.5k~8k
backstab 9k to 25k~26k(FRONTAL SO NO BONUS DAMAG EFROM THE BACK)
bounce shot 5k to 14k~15k
fulldraw 4k~ to 13~14k
barrage 1600 to 4500 average
storm bolt 15k~ to 45k

my attack 1095~1264
sub attack 1007~1090
crit attack 1336

edit: monsters used for test were kepas and leaf bugs.

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Does Heavy Shot still have bonus against Plate Armor targets?

so I guess this is Full DEX.
if you have a stat potion you can try full str and see how they looks?

and you know what these number kinda looks the same as we have on itos right now…shouldn’t your heavy shot become something like 4-5K when you have 1095 patk?

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mmm i think the reset already passed so i could get my daily reset if not wait for tomorrow, and heavy shot has 172% at lvl 1 lol

oh ok lol you have lvl 1 heavy shot

yeah if you can try it with full str would end everything

cross my finger to hope crit attack is in the % for skills XD

ohoh and also hows sneak hit doing, still get almost 100% crit from back? and hows your auccarcy? going full dex has problem with that?

uh, have only missed a little one 280+ monsters, maybe thanks to the bonus 50 accuaracy from using full leather, not much of an issue right now but cant really say how it would be on lower levels.

also nope will have to wait for tomorrow to get a stat reset potion :x

This table’s great, if you could add skill level to them (just to check skill factors) it’d be great for understanding crit formula.

By the way, monsters have 2 (kepa) and 3 (leaf bug) DEF. As low as you can get for testing I suppose. Good pick.

For Heavy Shot alone (since I knew skill level was 1), crit damage worked exactly as we’d expect - once 0.x was found to be around 0.57 - given the formula:


Crit Damage = (Skill Factor) (1,5*physical attack+crit attack)log(.)


(same thing with the previous backstab data)

EDIT: The ā€œ0.xā€ varifies a lot from skill to skill so we actually get the actual damage you see in game (guessing game much?). However, once you adjust it for the regular damage, the crit one follows consistently well according to the formula above.

EDIT 2: let’s list ā€œ0.xā€ just in case:

  • Heavy Shot lvl 1 (172%): 0.54< 0.x <0.57
  • Barrage lvl 15 (122%): 0.41< 0.x <0.44
  • Bounce lvl 5 +10% (468%): 0.33< 0.x <0.35
  • Back Stab lvl 5 (445%): 0.67< 0.x <0.7
  • Storm Bolt lvl 5 (660%): 0.75< 0.x <0.79
  • Skarphuggening lvl 1 (425%): 0.77< 0.x <0.81

such a great news, now its turning me to TOS white knights now XD

skar thingy lvl5
heavy shot lvl 1
backstab lvl 5
bounce shot lvl 5(10% more since i have lvl 20 attribute)
fulldraw lvl … 4 i think would have to check.
barrage 15
storm bolt 1

Anyone know if the 270/315 Hunting Ground has already been implemented in kTEST? And if yes, where are the entrances?

@EDIT: I took a look in the database and found that the entrance was in Grynas Hill, but when I went there I did not see the entrance.

As a A1>QS3 and going to Cannoneer C2, I’m leaning towards switching to full STR since I don’t want to rely on RNG crits which doesn’t seem to happen a lot from all the videos I’ve seen.

But my biggest concern is the aspd more than crit. Is it worth losing the aspd from DEX? Would the aspd make up for the lower damage… Or should I go for a mix of both, like 50/50?

because Nekoron didn’t sell potions :stuck_out_tongue:

i cant really have an opinion on aspd, i have a permanent 300~600 ping with constant packet loss, my aspd is beyond awful.

you can mix there is no problem with that, i tend to go 50 SPR then full something but you can do stuff like 1:1 2:1 1:2 etc.

ar 1 Qs3 will have 100 crit rate less than anything with archer 2, so you will have to compensate from gear/rogue, rogue shouldnt be hard to fit in your build actually.

150* since its (30 per level, max 5) for the swift step attribute.

And if I’m reading this right, kneeling shot crit attribute gives +200 crit rate as well (40 per level, max 5).

That’s 350 crit rate for running shot, which is huge since you have to gear for crit rate now.

is GIANT SWING working on people now? or monsters only still bugged?

im talking what i get in game, its giving me 100 at 5 not 150.