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kTOS General Thread (keep all in-game discussion here)

I suggest for you to just ignore them. Let them believe whatever delusions they want to believe in and just let us all go back into topic.

Why are we talking about wizards vs archer?

Wizards are better represented in PvP, being able to go full CON whilst still dealing good damage and having CC without sacrificing damage.

In PvE linker makes wizards popular and an optimal choice and due to auto-party these days it’s not like people can pick and choose who they want in their parties anyway.

Not a single archer on that list.

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And as for the whole QS ping thing, if you hold the button, why would lagg be a significant factor for DPS?

You talk about latency and then you talk about package loss, but you don’t understand the connection beetween these two factors?

I’m not from tos staff, but i’m IT engineer, so…, can i do that?plz?
You are wrong. Keep reading about latency and package loss and you might understand that.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh. You were being serious…

Swordsman’s dps is not meant to be ’ secondary ’ unless the Swordsman decides so and chooses a tank circle in their build. A dps swordie has exactly the same right to do good damge as an Archer.

Swordie is aoe primary dps, archer is single target primary dps. If Archer is better at both, this is not balanced.

If we keep going on like this, there will be a Swordsman user that will post similar complains as yours. :sweat_smile:
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Oh wait, I just did…

Don’t bash me people. I’m just a humble Swordsman watching the entire Archer vs Wizard drama series. :cry:

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Well guess what. I experience what you all experience now in ktos even before you all. Because I am from the asia side and playing icbt2.

The second fake attack didn’t happen to be constantly. When the server was congested, obviously I had this same ā€œfakeā€ attack happening to me too. However on good days I never face such issue. Of cuz the delay will always be there, but the fake attack which does no damage doesn’t take place.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I’m also from Asia. And I still get ~150 ping in ktos because internet here is trash. And I still get fake attacks even in ktos. Not as bad as itos with my ~300 ping but still consistent enough to affect my auto attacks where it slows it down considerably.

Falconer’s Hovering too :slight_smile:

They are related, but not the same.

While playing in icbt2, I experience my ā€œsecondary autosā€ that does no damage. Since you are an IT engineer, I am sure you agree that is the result of package loss, no? Client does the attack, but server respond with a no such attack occurs(package was lost).

But then this doesn’t happens to be on daily basis. Does that mean I suddenly move closer to icbt2 server which result in me having lower ping and in return not getting package loss. Obviously no right?

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What does this have to do with the cost eficiency of upgrading a Grand Cross to +15 compared to just getting a proper Lv220 weapon when you are 220?

Lol true :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: waiting for cleric want to be dps too

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You want cleric to be pushed to God-tier or something? :joy: All those utilities. There’s no need for cleric to have more damage yet :wink:.

Not sure if you are trolling or stupid.

Your experience shows us that what you are facing is indeed the result of bad connectivity, and not distance(ping)

With your current connection, even if you live next to server and have 5ms, your QS is still going to suffer from fake attacks.

I dont mean to sound rude or insult u Erokhi, apologies if I do, but theres no ā€˜Archer vs. Wizard drama.’ The complaint party is the Wizards only, since any Archer with any common sense already acknowledge the real issue being Running Shot overperformance.

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Lol why not? We got krivis, druid, sadhu :3

First, the packet loss is a very common thing … it happens all the time, but the communication protocol handles it so fast that you may not even notice.

Lower ping = LESS package loss. They are not the same but they are intimately connected. A lot of factors could cause more package loss and one of them is high distance.

You do know that distance =/= ping, right? Distance affects ping. So does connectivity. So it doesn’t matter if it’s because of bad connectivity or the distance between you and the server. Here, I’ll do your homework for you.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ping

ā€œto send an echo-request packet to (an IP address) and use the echo reply to determine whether another computer on the network is operational and the speed at which the data is being transferred.ā€

Whether it’s due to distance or connectivity, the fact that ping affects your auto attack speed is real. Making QS players with higher ping considerably worse because they RELY on auto attacks.

In any case, I don’t really care. You obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Lol.

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