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I understand, thank you for your attention <3

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what is the bug they are fixing now, sudden maintenance?

is funny cause I like quests…

I enjoy knowing the story of the world and it secrets through quests :3

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after changes since 1 past month, archer upgraded, wizard upgraded, cleric is strong like always. and now, swordman becomes neglected and weakest attack among 4 classes now. how unfair :confused:

  • it is major upgrade in this month for archer classes. speaking about attack damage, far shooting, run and gun. archer is really a nice class to play now.
  • wizard classes is always the best class for AOE DPS. you never worry about playing at this class except worrying about self defend and self hp issue.
  • no need to elaborate about cleric classes. heal and go, simple as that. and many are OP in PVP, so still the best among.
  • now, the saddest class is swordman. one benefit is good dodge, good defend, high HP. speaking about attack, it is a lot lower than the other 3 classes. worst attacking classes among these 4 (because mostly near range attack skill) if playing in PVP, except those can do far attack.

i don’t really see ToS has boost swordman life recently, it is so much unfair.

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You ppl :sleeping: :joy:

1:1 duel, you will hardly find swordman win over mage and cleric :confused:

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i didn’t mean to compare attack damage within swordman classes, but to the other classes.

if you compare swordman with the other classes, swordman attack damage is nothing :smiley:

I don’t mind all classes excelling in SOME things. It is also balance. But wizard aoe dps is no longer the best, archers can do it better after all the buffs. On top of that, they are also so much better at MVP, single target dps, they have no positioning problems, nobody kicks their fireballs to hell, they can kill the whole screen faster than a pyro or ele can think of what spell to cast.

@zhouyu47

You don’t need a dps wiz in your party to feel better, get another archer and feel thrice better.

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Swordsmen have had some upgrades in the latest patch notes.

long ago ~ ~ (1 month ) most people wouldn’t even touch an archer class unless they were going sapper/ranger or a dedicated role on their own, most players were primarily a swordsmen. Pavise didn’t work good for QS, hunter was broken and also left in the dust with other classes having their shining moments. only the dedicated people went hunter 3, psycho 3 ETC ( because they love their class regardless of the public opinion) , but they were often frowned upon in pick-up parties. we now have a party matching system which generates teams so that people can get into a party regardless of their build if they are constantly rejected by others. As the prime example; The archer family’s quality of life has improved vastly, and this is due to the community constantly giving feedback stating strong displeasure with some functions on the classes and what happened - buff buff buff buff, IMC is listening.

swordsman is not being neglected at all, it’s just that other classes needed more urgent attention before they became mythological classes that don’t really exist.

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even best gears best attack classes at swordman won’t even can get better damage than a moderate gears equipped with archer classes. how sad! their defend is not as good as swordman, but they shoot from range. that is most advantage part. and most of their skills are low cd and can be reused once again soon. look at most of the swordman class skills, high cd and have to depend normal attack very much!

I had plenty of archers. That was my problem :sob:

Anyways I’ll take some of your claims into consideration once you’re playing the game and can produce some videos or something that gives actual weight to them. Just reading patch notes and crying about buffs to archer doesn’t cut it.

@jinfin I’m hoping swordsman 2/3 and hoplite c2 get some buffs. I think they’re still going through the classes and buffing them as needed. I’m definitely having way more fun dpsing on wizard than my swordsman ( which was a pure dps build… ). A swordsman without a rank in peltasta is not nearly as useful because of this.

@Gwenyth Yeah, archer really only had a few viable builds. A lot of archer builds were just “oh I spam oblique shot for life, and have these other skills for fun.”

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obviously, it is unfair now :confused:

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i agree most of the points you mentioned. if i go back iToS, i will not go for swordman unless they get the classes balance.

The problem is that when you use some Hunter’s skills in combo, say, first Retrieve and then Coursing, in a few seconds you companion along with the target will just disappear. This bug is serious and is still not fixed, so any combo a Hunter designs might need a real test.

And I wouldn’t say Hunter C3 is a “must”, but in my own experience I think Growling is really a nice skill. It does everlasting CC, which is quite useful both in solo and party. However, during the effect, your companion is not able to do anything else or use any other skill, and in order to deactivate Growling, you have to move away from your companion in a long distance, which is a little bit annoying. Although there is inconvenience of using it, compared to other CC skills of Cryomancer, Linker, Psychokino, Growling is strong, due to its remarkably long duration, not to mention that this skill is unique, since no other Archer class has such a marvelous CC skill.

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