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[kTest[Ktos]] Class rework thread

yea was thinking the same as well, if the extra hit dont do a lot of damage than the 1 damage hit, there is no difference at all… Anyways Thanks for the reply.

I know which video you are referring to, I also lost it.

@Wooshin 플레이어 사루 방송이? 도와주셔서 감사합니다

@magocbi Yes. Your items will be un-trans so you can team storage again. Need token though…

@haryo567 Glove and boots will not give accuracy and evasion anymore. Just def & mdef.

@johnpaul_longasa All earthtower items are changed to Legendary (higher than orange item). They are best now. If you have Earthtower items, you may exchange them once (per item) for another earthtower item. For example you may exchange lolopanther plate boot for lolopanther cloth boot.

@Borel It is the best way to farm dungeon for silver now (d140 and d170). Dungeon 290 rush boss only drop 50k silver now…

@Zefiris Is viable. Please mind, inquisitor is a physical class (with 1 magic skill malleus male), PD2 is full magical. It is possible to go hybrid now because Mace weapons give [physical main stat & magical main stat].

@Bakatox This is Kugheri Zeuni. This is a flying type mob, you must call a hunter for help. Hunter snatching --> mob into ground --> affected by chortasmata --> able to copy.

@Satoru This is a good point. I think it will depend on preference. Red is good all around and is random.

@helltributewow If you still like deeds, you can try this: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.254555.3e5a657a8195.b5.1f415966768691a1 is this user build [click for video] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1udpNCrXTg)
Without Deeds of valor: punish1, cyclone15, zornhau-7, zucken-6, redel-10, zwerchhau-1, sturtzhau-5
Highlander skyliner is 5 overheat now, it is a nice filler too. Skull swing debuff is very strong. No, there is no big significant difference between high3 barb1 and high1 barb3 doppel3 builds according to the doppel players. Just playstyle difference.

@ronanaley Fletcher mergen still has the most spammable high hit skill set due to magic arrow. Mergen all skills are viable burst now. Bow bonus vs flying type +50%. Musket2 builds are rising as single target damagers, musketeer covering fire 15s cd with 2 overheat and halved charge time, headshot inflicts bleed, and snipe +20% damage vs bleed. A lot of damage.

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Video

Barbarian 20s stun

Swordie rodelero murmillo new HG [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EJHsnn4qGg)
Guild vs hauberk [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjKHZ-ciSuw)

Shinobi clone attack speed test [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0tlkXNMCUU&t=146)

Fencer siaulai mole & bear [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6uWq_D-NFk)

Corsair3 shinobi vs mob (pystis forest) [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha4b1Bnj5ds)

Corsair3 fencer siaulai mole and bear [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28L_LTrQnHQ)


Monk3 Doctor new HG [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVSro2Iyeo)

Zombie bokor vs mob (alembique cave) [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOdQW6bLlQc)

Paladin3 monk1 inquis vs dung290 boss [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF7t57zvoD0)
Paladin3 monk1 Inquis vs dullahan boss [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSVZ8dWLX_Qt=38)

Monk inquis siaulai golem [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoiSPyv_13U)

Monk attackspeed double punch test (increasing dex and finally +++monstrance buff) vs wooden dummy [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEJnIo9DCgQ)


Bongreiter (full dex) dungeon170 silver clear [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqU7bmJJCG4)
Another overgear reiter dung140 clear [click] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F80ri3rY8Nw)

ty for the response.

Do you think ranger 3 is basically picked because of the lvl15 steady shot (20% damage for 10s) instead of archer 2 hunter 2 (15% damage plus a flat crit) in fletcher mergen build? I personally going for the arch2> ran> scout > f3 > M because cloaking is a nice utility and Flecher already have tons of filler skills making ranger3 abilities a bit overkill. What’s your opinion?

Also do know about fletcher3 skill allocation preference in ktos? is 15 crossfire overkill for mana? is barbed arrow still a forgotten skill in favor of bodkin being a def reduction and spammable?

Ty and sorry about the many questions, I think the major doubt right now is not even the class ranks but skills allocations in some dps builds, because many skills are now being relevant damage wise.

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Barb C3 can already do 20 sec stun in our version.It’s amazing with Pouncing.

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Ranger3 is picked for steady aim 15 yes. +20% missile damage, and +150 extra damage. You can max the steady aim attribute for +(150 +100) extra damage.
Spiral arrow is now a nice burst too.

Hunter skill coursing & retrieve do NOT work vs bosses. Snatching only works vs flying boss.
For sure hunter is low CD damage vs normal mobs. Some mobs are resistant vs hunter skills though. Hunter coursing reduce def by % and will give you 40% flat crit vs the enemy. Hunter skill single target damage vs normal mob is high, usually it will die (skills have 2 overheat too…). Hunter & fletcher combo single target damage might be too much… [click for video of hunter3 falcon3] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C4oCBIhYE8)
If you need to know which mobs are resist vs hunter skills, go to anti-archer mob -immune to hunter skills- [here] ([Info] List of special & status resist mobs (link resist, more...))
Fletcher require lvl 11 broadhead & lvl 10 magic arrow. Other point is free.

Wow sorry I swapped the classes, my mistake. Where you readhunter I meant Ranger, sorry for that. Fixed my original post, could you answer it again?

Thanks! We should be giving u money for the answers hahaha … I guess mergen/fletcher will become a even more popular choice… It has losts of burst skills and DOT. Probably going for musket wugushu thou

I understand. Archer2 > rang1 > scout1 > fletcher3 > mergen is still viable. You will rely on fletcher skills. Luckily fletcher skill cd is very low. You must remember to craft arrows. You take arch2 and rang1 for buffs, scout for utility, fletch3 main dps and mergen burst. Scout1 is for PvE convenience with invisible + movspeed. Flare shot duration is 10s at all levels now, it is okay for some bonus damage. Your AoE will not be the greatest. It is decent AoE since most skills were buffed.

The other fletcher builds I’ve seen are arch2 sapper2, ranger3, arch2 ran2, arch2 hun2, arch2 ran1 wugu1.

Dex makes a difference yes, but full str is still fast.

Full str reiter dungeon140

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@greyhiem i mean if the gems we get are gonna be trableable

Please, let this be the end of the Tree of Magic. I tired of seeing full support clerics and full con wizards getting 1st place damage participation everytime…

So is it because [limacon] is technically +100% (+150%) x 2 hits vs the
+200% of [running shot]? Even without the damage attribute [limacon] is doing 200% x2 (400%) vs [running shot]'s 300% (360% with GC series). Has anyone cleared any of the dg’s with just [running shot]?

I don’t have lower dung with QS running shot.

Reiter 290 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziAdlo6LnKk
Vs qs3 falcon3 290 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2LkvuCRwBg

Actually falcon is used to AoE clear hmm

@magocbi yes

@greyhiem So i was playing SW+Hop3+Dop+Dr2 now it seems they are dead, which class u recommend me to reroll to farm/end game content PS: i will reroll my scout 3 to sr 3 aswell =x

For Rod vs Mace, roughly how big is the difference in m.atk if any?

Because my planned Cleric build is pretty much all magic so if there’s noticable difference between mace and rod then I might still take Rod even if my melee will just tickles things.

Is atm on KTOS pyro etc still using Agny Neackle???

Or they are using other like max petamion or animus or something??

Thx info <33

There is a difference of about 10-20%.

For example rod from 300+ Hunting ground:
1062 magic attack
42 INT
92 magic amplification
max 2 socket slots (appraiser)

Practonium (1) rod, windia rod
1062 magic attack
60 INT
25 CON
60 SPR
13 magic amplification
2 socket slot

Practo (1) mace, vienerazis mace
Phys attack 908 - 1003
Mag attack 860
111 INT
20 CON
Max attack +320
Min attack +168
Crit resist 28
-3 Block
2 socket slots

Find all rods [here click] (https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?type=Staff&order=ulvld&f=1)
All maces [here click] (https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?type=Mace&order=ulvld&f=1)

On mace,
Short line (공격력) = physical attack.
마법 공격력 = magic attack.

Some cleric classes have passives which will only apply when you are wearing maces.


@cess500 If you don’t like spear anymore, I recommend doppel3… it is the top swordie class right now for all purposes.

@pajugaaldiablo Agny is still okay for damage. It is not strong like before. It will give +50% to Fireball, firewall, flares, fire pillar, hell breath, flame ground, Meteor, incineration, prominence.
For example if your skill is 300% it will become 350%.
If you need more mdef you can switch to animus or max peta.

any more rodelero variants?? just wondering… :smiley: with hunting ground equipment and pumping gems for dmg… i was wondering if they came up to utilize rodelero :smiley: thanks…

also wondering what you guys brew for alchemist base build for leveling it… :smiley:
couz right now im pyro3chrono3/alch1 -_-
yeah i know i should have gone early on alch3

that’s why im asking :smiley: thanks

Any explanation on enchant fire and enchant lightning interaction with increasing mataq?

Was thinking about a variant of elememe using pyro3/ele3/ench, having enchant fire 15/15 for the mataq increase, do you guys think this could work or elememe is still better overall even with the quick cast nerf?