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I dare to say Damballa, specially because it let you use Plague Doctor 3 and can spread incineration with the new attribute.

I just want to point out, I’m not sure thaum full DEX works cause your swell arms and stuff won’t scale to anything. This also makes me wonder if you counted enchant lightning’s additional lightning property attack to multiple lines of attack which would easily be +6k per attack with enchant fire and sacrament’s added lines (for INT and SPR builds).

Also additionally, since you already mentioned dropping a couple ranks from pyro you can easily boost any spr build’s DPS by taking out one circle of pyro and replacing it with sorc1 lol.

All in all though I agree with how versatile enchanter2 can be when it comes to stat builds. So many possibilities!

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but Sorc wouldn’t fit well in that setup being a rank 5 class.
I thought about a similar build full SPR with pyro and thaum, but you can only fit thaum 1-2 not more which will still likely be inferior to chrono, as something like pyro->thaum->chrono may be possible and seems to be much more viable in terms of DPS with full int.

Pyro1-xx-Thaum3-Sorc1-Enchanter2 full SPR build will be viable.
Since you prioritize active auto-attack, hence SorcC2 is not needed, but this build require high Transcend weapon to be good on both side (summon/lightning), when it is something 1+1>2.
Not only damage. but Sorc1 give you catbuff for extra dark damage and aoe atk ratio as well, and a boss to help you lure and tank.

Not forget Runecaster’s Giant can fit into another Mario style, but it hurts my finger to considering this.

But if you have 2 PCs, use another link3-thaum3-sorc to buff your cryo3chrono3enchanter2 is a great method to solo content.

Finally, enchanter c2 is so excited, wizard tree was being a major auto-attack supporter finally get its own attack modifier itself, the synergy is what lost in wizard tree and enchanter raised a dawn.

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seem pretty funny

I did count all attribute damage from skills (Enchant Fire, Sacrament and Enchant Lightning) in all line of damage.

DEX indeed loses a lot of direct damage from all INT or SPR, but is able to counter that with higher attack speed. That’s why the DPS is not harmed as much.

Cryo3>Thauma3 as an example:

Full INT
Base matk: 1191
Matk gained from Thauma3 skills: 1946
Weapon: 1339 (+6 Windia Rod, the one i used for the calculations)
Total matk: 4476
Lightning Hands damage (plus all attribute damage): 37495 on frozen enemy
With Sacrament extra attack (400 sacrament and blessing 2100; being conservative here): 41218
Attacks per second: 1.2
Total DPS: 49462

Full DEX
Base matk: 216
Matk gained from Thauma3 skills: 970
Weapon: 1339 (+6 Windia Rod, the one i used for the calculations)
Total matk: 2525
Lightning Hands damage (plus all attribute damage): 22436 on frozen enemy (60% of INT build)
With Sacrament extra attack: 25822
Attacks per second: 1.8 (tested at Highlander Master with an Archer Full DEX, maybe can go to 1.9)
Total DPS: 46480 (94% of INT build)

That is why I think DEX can be viable. The more matk you gain from weapon, the total matk of DEX gets closer to that of an INT build, that`s why with $$$, DEX can actually be better.

With 4000 matk from weapon, this DEX build DPS is 87209 while INT is 73554. However, if you use Quicken10 scroll, attack speed grows to 2.2 and 1.6 respectively (tested that too), increasing DPS to 100979 for DEX and to 98073 for INT, pretty similar for one another.

About Sorc1: I’m not counting overall DPS, but DPS of AA with Lightning Hands. Sorc1 is indeed an option to increase all your DPS because of summons, but for AA only, SPR builds are weaker than INT.

And like you said, indeed Enchanter2 is way versatile and every build can shine in their own way. Here I was showing only damage, but some builds have other interesting things like Chrono3 having Pass and Haste10, skills that I love.

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Blind Faith is based on SP, so did anyone try with Kabba 1 Ein Sof and full CON instead of full SPR ?

With full CON we can reach 80k HP, Ein Sof use half of 100% hp boost as SP boost

so 100% of 80k HP is 80k HP then 50% of that is 40k SP

You get 40k SP with attribute Ein Sof SP recovery, it is far better than FULL SPR you get maybe 15k SP.

Ein Sof only recovers SP, it doesn’t increase your max SP limit…

I like how you think.

However, the SP you gain from Ein Sof cannot be greater than your max SP. At best, you will recover all your SP, which is around 6k without any SPR. So if you have 6k SP, that is what is going to be counted for Blind Fate.

Full SPR seems better that way, but using Ein Sof to restore all of it before using a damaging skill. Increasing maximum SP with Arcane Energy is also a great option.

thanks for elaborating further, it’s good to know these things esp for people who will encounter limitations with dex-chrono builds (ping). I’m personally too lazy to crunch in the numbers myself so I end up testing them instead when I get the time and energy to do so lol (or a reset event. reset events are always good).

I’m really carving for a Reset Event to actually test all of the builds I might like.

For now, it’s all theorycrafting as I don’t have access to Ktest server…

I see then full SPR is the better choice for Faith

Question: Since the lighting aura from zealot 2 is physical, is it possible to combo it with kagura dance on the same build?

My theory is, it is possible with the self buff to make the aura not deal dmg and using the pain barrier and safety zone to deny knock effects and keep dancing. It sounds a good combo to help swords in the party while dealing some dmg.

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Can you please also test something like pyro1->xx->thaum1->chrono3 with enchanter? or you think it won’t be viable due to swell brain missing?

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Pyro1>X>Thauma1>Chrono3>Enchanter2:

Full INT
Base matk: 1191
Matk gained from Thauma skill: 387
Weapon: 1339 (+6 Windia Rod, the one i used for the calculations)
Total matk: 2917
Lightning Hands damage (plus all attribute damage): 18338
With Sacrament/EF extra attack: 26338
Attacks per second: 1.8 (Quicken15 adds around 0,6 attacks per second; I tested)
Total DPS: 47408 (96% of Cryo3>Chrono3 on frozen target)

Full DEX
Base matk: 216
Matk gained from Thauma skill: 188
Weapon: 1339 (+6 Windia Rod, the one i used for the calculations)
Total matk: 1743
Lightning Hands damage (plus all attribute damage): 12085
With Sacrament/EF extra attack: 19011
Attacks per second: 2.4
Total DPS: 45627 (94% of INT build)

So… one of the lowest damage on Lightning Hands, but the attack speed makes up for that.

For Rank3 Linker is an easy option. However, I’m surprised with Cryo1 possibility. Damage on frozen targets for Pyro1>Cryo1>Thauma1>Chrono3 is the highest of ALL the builds I’ve tested, with either DEX or INT.

On frozen targets:
INT: 60k
DEX: 56k

This is by far the highest DPS build I theorycraft until now, as Cryo3>Thauma3 was top DPS build with 50k.
If all other Cryo3 builds buy Enchant Fire 5 scroll, their damage is also increased, but not as much as this build (Cryo3>Thauma3 damage is increased to 54k DPS, still lower).

In every possible situation I’m testing, this build excels above all, even if there’s little difference in overall DPS.

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sounds good! And if changing chrono3/thaum1 to chrono1/thaum3 ? anything gained in terms of damage or rather lost?

For that build

Non-frozen target
Full INT: 39k
Full DEX: 46k

Frozen target
Full INT: 51k
Full DEX: 58k

A little bit lower than Thauma1>Chrono3.

It is very interesting that in this case, Full DEX is better. Clearly because you lose bonus attack speed from Quicken and already gains a lot matk from Thauma and weapon, so INT is not so important and DEX becomes more important to make up for the lack of attack speed.

If you buy Quicken10 scrolls, however, INT is better (66k on frozen targets) than DEX and the previous build, but will be a much more expensive build as it will require something around 30k per scroll.

thanks a lot for the test. Hope they won’t nerf lightning hands as right now it can make many different builds more viable.

The beauty of Enchanter2 as of now is that all builds are viable, with their singularities and particular querks.

I did this theorycraft to help me decide for my characters and I got so excited that I decided to keep two Enchanters.

  1. Cryo3>Chrono3>Enchanter2 Full CON for ET (Over 50% block + support for team)

  2. Pyro1>Cryo1>Thauma1>Chrono3>Enchanter2 Full INT for fun.
    It has fire, ice, lighting and Enchant Earth. A TRUE ELEMENTALIST.

Can’t wait for the nerf. IMC likes to put great skills and then nerf them and ruin builds. lol

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Question: blind faith increases all ticks from lighting aura or only the first one?

Edit: Does the increased dmg stacks for kagura dance or only unboosted dmg is used?