try barbar with Maximum plate mastery + good magic defense/resist acc , they survival is better than Archer/Mage only lose to cleric IMBA class , why they have good survival,damage and buff skill and all people focus to barbar overkill small mobs with weak to slash and forget enemy that weak to pierce and strike have huge HP
my god do you even know what your talking about.
you cant rely evade because archer also have high dex and they are just gonna kite you if your a swordsman. (magic build)clerics and wizards are just going to ignore both block and evasion.
you cannot move with crossguard. which also means you cannot get close to the enemy.
yes corsair and squire are best swordsman SUPPORT PvP toon, but as OFFENSIVE PvP toon its still only Cataphract that can properly do it without relying on other classes.
I definitely agree with this
Most archers have a hard time beating peltastas in PVP due to their high block rate
the problem with peltastas is that they will have a hard time hitting archers due to their evasion which makes them kiteable
Because of this, Cataphract becomes revolutionary in PVP because of their mobility along with the finestra block bonus against archers from taking even just hoplite c1
As a cataphract myself, I’ve never lost any duels against mages because of my max trot which causes me to give them a heavy pressure battle 
with my paladin i only fight barbarians/highlanders, i fought a hoplite once and i did not lost but i just ran to the other map.
rush and impaler is the only skill that can ez to target them and have very high cooldown , and that skill miss all the time for high dex char , the only offensive for pvp is magic and cleric is the only job that can tank everything + cast magic , archer is ez they need walking to kite and all swordman have dash , the only class that not rely other class is cleric
nah , cc them with arrest or hook and let other kill them , what use swordman if always miss , 100% Accuracy from aggressor is the only skill for killing high dodge class
LOL ran to the other map XD
@Hordew Who said trot and impaler are the only skills of a cataphract? If you even try to pit a team full of cataphracts and a team full of mages in pvp the latter would most likely fail because they couldn’t even cast their skills due to heavy CC from bash/wagon wheel/the two shield skills of peltasta
Add to that earth wave and steed charge knockdowns too and you have one whole team of casters rekt because they couldn’t even cast their skills
Not only that, cataphracts have heavy base normal attack damage too which totally rekt mages and archers alike
yeah sure we may miss some of our skills and attacks against an archer but our attacks would be continuous each with a chance to hit them before they could even kill us along with our high HP pool and block rate
Turning Barb into a tank is another way of building it such as, for example taking Peltasta > Barbarian as a base but you are, in fact, trading your damage for more defense thus reducing Barbarian capability. It’s a good build to make an offensive tank type but you won’t be doing that much damage. Something like, with critical proc, you might get 1k instead of 2k or 3k because of how you build your Barbarian. I prefer maximizing Barb offensiveness rather defensive, not the other way around.
umm im actually afraid of fighting sadhu, they can kite and chase like forever, though i have never fought a sadhu before
feather foot the new r7 class is going to change CC built wizards becoz LIFE STEAL
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Hahaha yeah sadhus can be scary because of that but as a melee class if I am pushed to that situation, I’m gonna kill race the sadhu with my Stabbing and Pierce along with Pain Barrier then shred him/her to pieces before I even get killed haha
I’m also gonna do it when his phantom is near so it would take him longer to react and move away by using his real body migration to phantom body position
Also, yeah that new feather foot class seems intriguing and would fit nicely to heavy CC wiz specially Cryo
We’ll see how it goes xD
that skill 90% miss with long cooldown ,i am use cata from cbt1 cannot kill blocking pelstat and cyro ice wall bullet freeze you to dead , you cc skill useless againt safety zone only impaler can take person from that zone , i know aggresor buff is not anymore , and making swordman class miss all the time when PVP , if you want win pvp use cleric they so OP for support tree class
Stop complaining and play strategically ._.
Cataphracts may be a frontline class but that doesn’t mean you need to do so all the time
If you are a peltasta cataphract than use your freaking block too
Also, you have teammates, you need to consider your approach and style of play depending on your composition rather than doing what you usually do and blindly attacking
Those things are there for a reason so deal with it
Beside the fact that koreans have completely different play style. They treat games like social media , if you’re expecting to grind months with your friends an hour or two at a time ofc barb is useless.
- too individualistic
- too op to play with friends playing weaker classes
We can sit here and talk all day about korean opinions while the matter of fact is . They have no power over us ,because we have completely different mindsets. Well unless we’re looking at barb players,they will agree, because nerfs inc
We’re very much competitive in mmo’s and for us Barb shines too too much .
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much competitive in mmo’s and for us Barb shines too too much
in PvE general mobbing.
there is guild vs guild vs raid boss in the future content.
feather foot seem to be the most powerful of the new r7 classes due to lifesteal
See, that’s not the case.
For KR, many players reach 200 within the first couple days after server wipe because of massive exp boosts. No one had issues with overkill or anything. Yet people still did not play barb. It’s certainly not because they are OP, it’s because they have an extremely weak end game.
No one cares about the little speed they get in the earlier phase of the game, they can literally do nothing at the end game and have always been garbage in ranked pvp for months.
As much as it’s true about the social aspect, and how KR’s play games differently. This is not the case for the test server. That is the case for fully published games that can also be played in internet cafe’s etc.
Also for KR opinions having no power over us. Sure, no opinion should have power over us. But I’ll lay out the facts:
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Barb is garbage at bossing when you actually need to kill bosses for loot. Almost every other DPS class is better.
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Barb has an extremely difficult time pvping, because they can’t handle CC and have 0 gap closers.
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Barb can’t even play well with hoplite, because cleave cancels finestra, breaking any chance of being somewhat decent with bossing.
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Barb is a rank 3 class, meaning it’s damage stops scaling by the time it hits rank 6 assuming players go circle 3. Even then it only has 2 powerful skills on 2 overheats and 1 damage skill that’s more of a utility, and then is left to do nothing at all. Heck cleave is trash on bosses or anything that you can’t get a stun off of, which again is extremely difficult in a pvp environment (5v5/3v3).
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That is why their opinion is irrelevant.
1.Different exp rates
2.We don’t look at the end game.
3.We’re individualistic
Who cares about pvp when ppl can barely get past lvl 75 on average with 3x exp. Again you’re in Korean mindset.
We don’t look at the end game.
ummm…i think your are one of the few not thinking about not caring for end game.
look at all the people asking for a full build advice is class discussion.
We’re individualistic
look at all the guild recruitment when there isnt a proper guild function yet