It’s a different generation. These kill stealing degenerates lack pride.
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MMOs nowaday pretty much. It’s not like older days where people are all dandy and actually respect one another. Now it’s all about having the damage, boasting about gears and showing others where they belong by dominating the crap out of them.
KSing has always been allowed, being rude is as well.
This happend to me all the time. They only hear the link sound and coming like bees.
Last days a cleric ks’d me all the time with zaibas. After i tell to stop, he jumps around me and follow.
Wonder what the KS issues will be like when this game turns open for everyone 
I’m an Archer, I’ve never kill stolen from anyone in fact as a hunter (which no one else picks) I don’t have uncontrollable AoE or screen wide AoE.
The class that kill steals me the most is… Wiz3 Elementalist, Once I see that outfit/robe approaching me I know i’m about to lose everything every. single. time. MAGIC MISSILE !! Jump spam away yelling LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Second on the kill steal list is Catar Strokers, they just can’t stop stroking monsters i’m fighting, we should build them a petting zoo in town. they probably won’t even leave.
The bane of my life is the blasted Barbarians, i see the Seism on my mobs the moment i see a Barbarian.
They literally just doesnt give a “duck”, they pass by, see i got a mob, Dash into it, and Seism.
who the fk do you think you are?
all i can say is, dont bullshit your zone thing and be proud of it. You have no consideration for others, you are rude and unethical but is unaware of it, thinking it is okay just because you happen “not to notice”, or because you weren’t even focusing, weren’t even looking so its not your problem. People like you need a big smack down.
I play dps and i fight against ksers when i see them. When i see other classes especially support like cleric getting ksed by idiots, i will stand up and help these people to scold the ksers and i will fking ks the ksers let ppl like you taste their own ■■■■.
I can motherfking win u in any fking ks, stalk u to death and one hit any mob u are trying to hit until u cry. So dont ever think you are any pro here being able to 1-2 hit anything, thats just because you chose a dps class. There is nothing to be proud of.
For people who have chosen the support class, it doesnt mean they are weak or anything, please, they could have all chosen dps if they wanted to and use it better than you. Dont think ppl should bow down to you just because you can kill things easily. @sshole
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“I thought you needed help! I swear!”
“Don’t worry m’lad(y), I’ll save you!”
No, but seriously, it’s just a matter of personal etiquette. You ever try to stand in a queue in mainland China? They will rush you out faster than a 6 pool drone/ling all in. Some cultures are just different, and some just have no regard to ‘etiquette’ because it doesn’t exist.
Most of these cultural clashes in my opinion have been from Thai and Brazilian players (not to forget the few number of NA players). I’m not sure if it’s purely due to cultural difference, or the looming animosity and competition stemming from the past. Either way, as frustrating as it might be when someone comes and spoils your smooth grinding cruise, remember you can talk as much ■■■■ as you want and it’s all in fun \o/ I declare undeniable love to the KS’ers like that couple that got arrested for trying to join ISIS. Either way, eat your vegetables.
Well ill tell you IRO was a far different story. From a few comments is seems euRO had tamer people.
I agree. I’m a Ragnarok player too, for many years. KSing was the most tabooed thing, only dipshets and asswads would try and KS you often.
People are always gonna KS though, we cant stop that. Classes like an Archer who can do that will try failry often to KS.
There is something they can do.
Avoid anyone else who is not in the party to hit the mobs ‘Provoked’ or ‘Hit’
For at least 10 seconds after the last hit.
Its actually fine, Im a Cleric too, and so what I been doing is making a ■■■■ list and blacklisting every KSer, so when I do run into them for a matchmade dungeon, I will clearly state to the group, since I am the rare cleric and everyone wants heals, buffs, and what clerics bring to the table, that I will not intentionally throw any heals towards that player, I will however, resurrect him, as punishment for being a shitter. They can either deal with it, or ill find one of many parties who will gladly want a cleric.
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I think we can just read through some of the posts here from all the “sound, ethical minds” of the community condemning others for “kill-stealing” and see who the real “bad people” are.
It’s kill-stealing because they’re entitled to those mobs, because they say they’re entitled to them. That’s what a sense of self-entitlement does, makes you feel entitled to things that you aren’t entitled to.
Same reason everyone that doesn’t agree with them are “subhuman” and “assholes” or “dipshits” and need to be taught a lesson by the overlords of righteousness in the playerbase.
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i feel like this is some form of role playing… something ill have no part in
just kill ■■■■ and move on.
You don’t understand, these players have special ability to see their names written over the mobs that are theirs to kill. It’s a skill only true saviors have. And they kill only those mobs that has their name on them, to avoid killstealing themselves 
The main problem here is that both sides are selfish, the other side is just a bit more selfish than the other. Everyone has an opinion whether that more selfish side are the ones who kill what they can before anyone else kills them, or the ones that claim more monsters than they can kill before anyone else could kill them.
I kind of understand the cleric class’s view on this but it’s not like they didn’t know what was waiting for them when they decided to pick up a support class and if they don’t have people gathered up to party with them.
At least I wouldn’t want any unnecessary carebear rules to prevent every kind of conflicts players might come across and hurt their feelings over. There needs to be emotions involved when you play mmorpg to make it more exciting. The arch enemies and rivals just need to be there, as long as it doesn’t become full hate, war and wailing for everyone and create overall hostile gaming atmosphere. At least that’s how it’s for me. And yes, my second character will be healer type, because I’m probably latent masochist and I enjoy helping others in my team.
And since people are unable to read the whole thread if it’s longer than 25 replies on these forums: I’m against actual bullying or stalking of one player around just to killsteal from him for prolonged periods. And I tend to spare clerics from my random KS tendencies.
No, just base humanity. Atleast I have that much.
Oh hello there populist.
Ah, trying to make this into a ‘‘but they are bad people!’’ discussion? How are victims the ones doing things wrong here?
Yeah we can really tell that from your post.
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You are missing the art of debate here.
I can tell the guy would reasonably be against bullying and outright stalking and purposefully trying to make another kids experience here negative…
somewhere along the lines you misread his context
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No, I’m trying to tell that while there are no threads praising the killstealing aspect of the game, there are people who think differently. People who think it’s not that big of a deal you should get frustrated enough to cry about it and then there are people who think it’s not problem at all and it’s actually their own fault for getting their feelings hurt when not everyone complies to their demands or respect their opinion on how this game should be played. I think I kind of belong more on the former group.
You don’t hear these players’ opinions because everything is currently fine for these people and it’s not really tempting to come into these threads and tell that you sort of disagree with this being a problem. But since the Staff seems to listen to the players on these forums I thought I’d give some other views on it too. I’d like the game to stay how it currently is and not remove any challenging parts one by one because some people complain about it on forums while the rest are happily playing the game (I browse the forums during my breaks on studying btw).
Not sure what you meant by this comment? If you think killing few mobs from you while running past is bullying, then you can brand me a truly evil bully who does that to almost everyone he sees near a nice group of mobs (except clerics), and probably more than once per hour I play. But those stories of people having someone following them around even after changing channels is when things are not going alright and this should not be allowed.
Base humanity?
That’s a hoot considering you and everyone on your side of the argument seem to be casting all the judgments and insulting everyone that’s playing the game.
You’re not a victim, you just want to make yourself out to be the victim to get what you want.
You’re just sensationalizing something you don’t like, to try and gain favor and for some reason you think that makes you a better person.
The mobs in the game do not belong to you, I don’t care if you did 99.999999% of the damage to said mobs. You do not own them ergo people cannot steal them from you.
If you want to impose some sense of courtesy or respect because you sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting your turn to get some mobs to finish a quest, do you.
But don’t come to the Forums, debasing everyone who doesn’t share your ideals.
Kill stealing is a social construct. It’s etiquette to not attack a mob which is engaged with another player. If you do so, then yeah, people aren’t going to like you. If you have a problem with a topic calling them out, that’s on you.
Many people are in agreement that kill stealers are scum with no class, respect or decency. If kill stealers feel otherwise, that’s their prerogative. But the vast majority thinks that kill stealers and the attitude and mentality they breed are trash.
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You’ve literally done nothing but insult and debase people in all your posts about killstealing.
I’m pretty sure you don’t have class, respect, or decency either.