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Is WIZ3 KINO3 be good/decent for PVP,PVE?

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#141

Hi, Elyson could you please tell what is your stats distribution for w3psy3

#142

70 points in con, rest are int.
The thing is, being % sp consumption makes Gravity Pole very costly xD In group grinding, I have to chug potion continuously to be able to alternate between Pole and PP. As our sp pool is larger and larger, it’s just gonna get worse. Not to mention, in group everyone is chipping in some damage so you don’t need too much damage.

The reason I feel FF and Psy 3 doesn’t mesh well is their SP usage. Blood sucking cost a ton of SP and pretty unnecessary in party with Healer.

#143

thx very much for the info bro!!!

#144

im 90 con rest int

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#145

Wiz 3 sux before the buff, many still held that old impression.

#146

What was the buff given to wiz3?

#147

With wiz c3 - kino c3

Could I add necro as a t7 and have that be useful instead of warlock ? With the idea of adding necro c2 if there is no t8 that is good ?

Or could I go

Wiz c2 - kino c3 - necro c2

With the option off adding wiz c3 later in t8 if there is nothing good ?

#148

If your goign wiz for surespell, remember that if the enemies attack has a knockback/down/stun etc, surespell is not going to stop those. It just prevents interupting from normal swings. For example surespell would be pretty useless in Mage tower, since almost everything has knockback/down on auto attacks. Not a big issue if your cryo 2 or 3, since most of your skills you’d be useing are instacast, or have low cast times.

#149

The thing with kino3 and surespell is the signature spells on kino (PP and grav pole) are both channeling spell. knockback doesnt save you from getting interrupted even with surespell.

Wizc3 on kino is only for the +50% MaTk and for your build to be future proof.

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#150

So I would be better off as wiz c3-kino c3- necro c1 then

#152

Yes.

  • Better dmg.
  • Channeling skills safer with Surespell.
  • Can get 1 more rank at rank 7.
  • Future proof (if you focus on dps).

Ofc you also lose many others like cc/utilities and ice wall combo of Cryo.

I also prefer to use shield rather than dagger, as i’m using Aias now and it help me alot to block bosses dmg/cc.

#154

Yeah, not half dmg but 2/3. Quick cast has 15s duration so remember to recast it often XD

#155

After reading all in this topic, it looks like there is a big debate between wiz3-kino3 and cryo2-kino3… I am still not sure what path I should follow for pve/pvp

#156

wiz3 kino3 for more damage
cryo2 kino3 for more control
cryo3 kino3 for guild pvp onry

#157

Brief and simple, thank you so much

#158

Seems like people here are low levels, only saw videos or just over-representing the Kino class.

This is all based on experience and for 1/1 int/con with lvl 0 attrib on both PP and Gravity Pole

Going wiz3-Kino3 means you will have above average damage because of 50% attrib but you will still need to 50%/ fully cast PP on high HP mobs above lvl 100.

On group PVP, you don’t need to go Wiz3 because no matter how high your damage is, you will not be the main damager because your skills are damage per tick. Wiz 2 for surespell is enough.

On 1v1 pvp, wiz 2 is not needed. Raise/tele then pp is enough to kill anyone.

The drawback of this build is you will need to rely on 2 skills until you get to R7. I label this build as the average Kino build. Good for PVE and PVP.

Wiz-Cryo2-Kino3

Sucks for PVE, extremely good for bosses and average CC for group pvp.

Why it sucks for PVE? Because without surespell, any hit will cancel your cast.

Wiz2-Cryo-Kino3

This is the best CC Kino build. Just pure suffering until you reach R7.

Wiz-Cryo3-kino

Boss build and not really a Kino build but more a cryo build.

#159

So, lv100 mobs, which its very early, because the really hard part start with lv170 mobs, if you dont have 50% attribute from wiz3, you wont kill them :sweat_smile:

#160

Wiz2 Cryo Kino3, then what as R7?

Does Wiz2 Kino3 Linker make any sense? Raise + Link is dirty, and Hangman’s Knot into Sleep / Magnetic Force / Swap could also be useful to me

Basically I’m Wiz2 Kino3 atm and having a hard time deciding on R6/R7 for a PVP build. Cryo2 seems so boring lol

#161

Nice summary. That’s pretty much it.

Something you should mention is that Wiz 3 Kino 3 Warlock is better at hunting down people during GvG too, because they have much higher burst than cryo 3 kino 3 (you can’t really setup your ice wall PP combo when hunting people, they ran before you finish your ice wall).

#162

What do you guys think?

Wiz1>Cryo2>Kino3>WL

or

Wiz3>Kino3>WL

Thorn between the two. Thanks in advance for inputs!