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Is Swordsman the worst PVP class?

I will start by building a wall, and making the mages/clerics pay for it.

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Implying you haven’t done the same in this thread. I have just as much experience as you, if not more.

It is not like this game has been out for that long.

Tons of swordsmen in the top of fedi tho.
I just checked my screens from middle last week and there are like 6 swordsmen in top 50, i didnt screen past that point. They are all catas tho (I took my place as top 10 later that week).
I guess it’s because less ppl are playing overall xD

Again, just because 1 person won the lottery, doesn’t mean everyone else can. Everyone has the chance to though, but luck isn’t fair that way.

WTF mate? How is sword 3 cata 3 corsair a support to you when you insisted that sword 3 cata 3 is a DPS? You are the one who is adjusting the goal post. Show me corsair c2 c3, rodelero c2 c3 in PvP

PvP board just reset yesterday, give it till the end of the week

Yes I can only kill people with bad builds. That’s #3 cleric doesn’t have good team mates as I did in that game. 5v1 isn’t fun for him

List of things I can’t kill:

  • Anything > 30k HP
  • Full DEX archers (all miss). Bonus to them if they are fletchers/musket/cannon with at least 1 scout circle
  • Clerics that can use heal/safety zone/revive/blood letting/revenge 7x/ausrine/world tree
  • Wizards that have any variation of cryo/kino/warlock/chrono. Bonus to them if they can use reflect shield and sleep, or can combine 2 or more of the above (but only 1 is needed, really)

List of things that I can kill:

  • Full STR archers
  • Full INT wizards
  • Full SPR clerics
  • Basically anything <15k HP

How do you know that 1 person didn’t just get lucky with their random match up? Do you record the same swordman week after week after week consistently in the top PvP?

Also, if anyone can do the same, let me tell you there won’t be spot for anyone, because right now, there are 45 wizards and 45 clerics in the top 100 PvP board. Obviously all wizards and all clerics can get top 100 spots, and there will be simply no spots left for swordman.

You don’t get top rank by luck. You get it by playing well.[quote=“thailehuy, post:92, topic:322804”]
WTF mate? How is sword 3 cata 3 corsair a support to you when you insisted that sword 3 cata 3 is a DPS? You are the one who is adjusting the goal post. Show me corsair c2 c3, rodelero c2 c3 in PvP
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So? Point is swordie can be good at pvp. Sorry your build sucks?

K, seems like it doesn’t matter though since you will have a convenient excuse for any swordie that is better than you.[quote=“thailehuy, post:92, topic:322804”]
Yes I can only kill people with bad builds.
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That makes you bad at the game. Sorry.[quote=“thailehuy, post:92, topic:322804”]
List of things I can’t kill:

Anything > 30k HP
Full DEX archers (all miss). Bonus to them if they are fletchers/musket/cannon with at least 1 scout circle
Clerics that can use heal/safety zone/revive/blood letting/revenge 7x/ausrine/world tree
Wizards that have any variation of cryo/kino/warlock/chrono. Bonus to them if they can use reflect shield and sleep, or can combine 2 or more of the above (but only 1 is needed, really)
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A good swordie can CC 100% to 0% even with 30k HP. Sorry that you can’t.
Get more DEX and upgrade your gloves.
Yeah I don’t think anyone could kill a cleric with all of those buffs on…point?
Darn, you have a hard counter. Sorry, we all do. Mine is hunter.
lol reflect shield and sleep

Grats![quote=“thailehuy, post:92, topic:322804”]
How do you know that 1 person didn’t just get lucky with their random match up? Do you record the same swordman week after week after week consistently in the top PvP?

Also, if anyone can do the same, let me tell you there won’t be spot for anyone, because right now, there are 45 wizards and 45 clerics in the top 100 PvP board. Obviously all wizards and all clerics can get top 100 spots, and there will be simply no spots left for swordman.
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There are plenty of swordies in top pvp, you are just blind.

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Play a swordman first, then come back to tell me after you reach top rank. I would concede even if you can reach top 50, let alone top 10

LOL, again, please play before you comment. Are your opponents training dummy? You know that you can cast safety zone while being Rushed, right?

Points aren’t free. Also more DEX = blocked by stone skin

And unlike your glorious magic that ignore evasion, archers have more evasion than you can ever have with accuracy, even if you go full dex and +20 glove. Oh wait, you can’t know that because you don’t have a swordman

Yeah, not like anyone have to run close to enemy first before realizing you can’t kill

Damn sorry you have 1 hard counter, swordman have like 20

You don’t know reflect shield prevent Rush flinching as long as it last, do you?

Want me to screenshot top 100 PvP leader board to you?

No need to waste my time playing a class I dislike to win an e-argument.[quote=“thailehuy, post:95, topic:322804”]
LOL, again, please play before you comment. Are your opponents training dummy? You know that you can cast safety zone while being Rushed, right?
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I am saying this because it happened to me. All it takes is one knockdown and a swordie with the right build and gear can kill me without me getting an opportunity to do anything. HINT: The build is not cata3.[quote=“thailehuy, post:95, topic:322804”]
Also more DEX = blocked by stone skin
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Grasping at straws. Archers don’t magically have stone skin on at all times.[quote=“thailehuy, post:95, topic:322804”]
And unlike your glorious magic that ignore evasion, archers have more evasion than you can ever have with accuracy, even if you go full dex and +20 glove. Oh wait, you can’t know that because you don’t have a swordman
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I play a chaplain build. I have to run up and beat things to death with no Knockdowns. I do fine in pvp and place in the top 10. Git Gud.

Yeah sure post a screenshot, just don’t cherry pick.

Basically you know nothing about swordman, but you try to teach people how to play swordman?

I direct your same words back to you: GET GOOD

So if I increase my DEX, I will never face a priest again? I never know DEX affect my opponent like that :joy:

And conveniently forget that you win because of heal, safety zone, revive, resurrect, which is not related to chaplain lol

Why do I have to cherry pick when it’s the truth :joy:

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Thanks for proving my point with the screenshots. 1 Catagoon in the top20. If 1 can do it, any of em can.

Yeah I have 38k HP, getting full CC’ed by a swordie to death means that any swordie with the right build could do it.[quote=“thailehuy, post:97, topic:322804”]
So if I increase my DEX, I will never face a priest again? I never know DEX affect my opponent like that :joy:
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Because every battle has a priest3 and apparently you can’t use your superior mobility to not blow all of your important skills till it is off.[quote=“thailehuy, post:97, topic:322804”]
And conveniently forget that you win because of heal, safety zone, revive, resurrect, which is not related to chaplain lol
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While you conveniently forget all the aformentioned knockdown/CC/Stun/Damage swordies can have. Cute.

What about all the clerics and wizards that “can” do it? Why are there so many comparing to swordman :joy: please explain that to me

LOL. Did you see the leader board? Half of them are clerics. Yes every battle I will see at least a cleric. And I cannot reset my stats every battle ok? I have to choose to increase stats so that I can deal with certain kind of target. And unlike your glorious magic, increase DEX to deal with archers = get blocked by cleric, increase STR to deal with cleric = get miss from archers, see it now?

So you let them get next to you, while you have no safety zone/revive/bloodletting/statues on, and you claim yourself top 10 PvP?

Swordman cannot teleport you know? And they have no range.

You must be my favorite kind of target, a cleric that cannot protect himself.

shinobi can somewhat ‘teleport’ and corsair can fire pistols but mostly on limited and situational use

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No remember Dragoon is the new best class in the game. xD

someone make a “swordman is best pvp class in this game” thread.

u can take quotes from this thread and inform all the ignorant.

Klaip has a catagoon in rank 4 5v5. Just sayin.

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Guess they are bad, mad, and happen to also be sad.

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