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Is STR becoming too weak?

DEX has always been the meta in kToS, but in terms of damage from r1-r7, STR has been better for most builds. But for r8, in terms of both survivability and damage, DEX is trumping STR making str just a stat for block penetration.

Should it be revamped?

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Sneak Hit reduces the justification for Dex.
Aka. Rogues can say screw it to dex. Given they can also cap their accuracy temporarily a Rogues only dex concern is accuracy and positioning.

Str gives quite a bit of stats now
1 attack (1.3 for warriors)
1 crit attack
1 Block penetration (1.2 for warriors)
5 extra weight carried.

Might as well ask Devs to use Weight more on certain equipment to make them effectively Con/STR exclusive like that Mummyghast mail that weighs 950 flipping weight.
That and some things do scale more on STR (Barbarians Frenzy, Swordman’s Concentrate).

Given the weight system with equipment there is a lot of things they can do with STR/CON already through itemization. A 4 piece equipment set for instance with heavy equipment isn’t going to be practical on a high dex character who gets slowed to hell and back for trying.

Sword R8 and Inquistor got Dex meta now.
If the Skill base damage is high dex seems to be better and dex gives acc + crit+evasion.

And with the new gems coming soon Dex will be even better than now ^^"

The thing is dex gives survivability + damage, str only gives damage. Zero survivabilty.

With a crit dealing 1,5x more dmg, or 2x more damage ( depends ), str needs to be insanely high to really deliver.

Str is more a pen block / weight limit enhancer, more then anything else atm.

Considering the gem patch will change the gem meta, to get the critical rate you lost from not taking green gems, you’ll have to pump more into DEX, but since you’ll need less stats invested to reach the same damage you could get before the patch, those stats could perfectly go into CON or even SPR (fencers, for example, have a huge sp consumption)

STR is the recently buffed stat that can now give different benefits, but IMC shoot their legs just like their Corsairs by providing dirt cheap easy replacement for STR from other sources such as transcendance/wepon enhancement/renewed jem stats/renewed hat attributes.
IMC just cant into game balancing decisions without hurting the game first in the process until we make em’ realize that, what they did was ■■■■.

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inb4 swordie and archer demand stat reset

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“Full DEX is the new meta. Barbarian C3 is the new meta. Peltasta is the new Meta. STR is the new meta. Barbarian C1 is the new meta. Swordsman C2 is the new meta. DEX is the new meta”. - Swordsman meta timeline.

Do you really wanna delete* your characters and follow this circus?

*or waste your stat reset potions.

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Seriously guys just play what you like and avoid meta.

Meta will be nerf sooner or later or schedule to change. Also IMC clearly does not understand what is proper balance.

Just look at EleMemes now. :^)

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Just don’t forget that eventually STR and INT will get 100% bonus on rank 10.

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We already have 80% of that 100% and it clearly isn’t good

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Well we still got 200 lvl to change the stats :smiley:
But Str/Int needs to be better thats for sure

I dont like meta gamers too but at least it shows that dex>str at the moment.

I wonder why people keep saying dex > str in R8??? That’s like suicide in R8. There’s so many mage mobs and most of archer mobs have well over 900 accuracy. Also, Crit rate is capped at 80% just like evasion. Max critical rate can be obtained with very little dex invested.

In my opinion, Con is the superior stat for most classes so that you don’t get 1 shotted. Maybe that’s why so many players are finding r8 content so hard while I’m breezing right through it.

Crit cap is not capped. you can 100% crit O_o.

Crit formula = ( crit rate - crit resist) * 42 / (level)

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Oh please do tell what is a failsafe build can actually go pure Con and not suffer absolute 0 consequences throughout this whole game that is being manage by IMC.

I know those pure Con Wizs are suffering, oh and don’t say they didn’t gear up for the new content, we all know how absurd the new mobs mdefs are which are beyond recognizable as ‘balance’ in any game.

Ignore that guy everything that comes out of his mouth is ignorance.

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A stat/defense/weapon/skill damage system that requires huge changes and tweaks with each update (str buff, trans update, stupidly high monster def/mdef and stupidly high skill atk with R8 update) indicates that it is flawed and imbalanced in its core and is unlikely to ever be really balanced and future-proof.

Having some skills do a fixed amount of bonus damage while making others %-based was a really bad idea.

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Is that why you’re still crying about how hard the new content is while the rest of us has it on farm?

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dex have always been better then str, ppl just like finding excuses for their poorly made builds. u need 600+ crit rate to get the cap of crit chance, pretty hard to get if u go high str( even if u have archer2)

if u are full str nowadays u get ± 800 str what means + 800 physical atack(±1100 if u are a sword) , on the other hand if u go high dex u multiply ur dmg( x 1.5), what is gonna increase ur dmg way more than flat 800-1100.

u can try denying that, but its the true and u cant run of the true