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Is Sapper the Sadhu of Archers?

It’s pretty bad. I decided to stick to it and go sapper 3 just to see what it’s like and man is it terrible. Basically only 1 useful skill for 3 circles.

Claymore setup is atrocious

Punji 3 second cast

Spike Shooter 1m 40s cd and is completely unreliable ( or maybe there’s a trick to having it actually hit the mobs you want)

Collar bomb only works about 50% of the time.

Stakes are incredibly tiny and pretty much just useful to pop it in melee range on top of a mob. Damage sucks too.

nah! only if it main skill make the game crash and I have seen more sappers around than sadhu and am a sadhu…

I thought Hunter is the Sadhu of archers.

Hunter is ridiculously op against flying elite or bosses. Sapper is nothing compared to hunter tbh without falconer. Lmao.

Only problem of hunter is you need to spam /comeon (doesnt matter what method you use)

Sapper 3 needs falconer for just 1 or 2 type of hidden combo to be utilize and still underwhelming. I had an easier time using hunter as long as the pet doesnt act retarded.

sadly yes… most skills are clunky af, hunters are much better and fills out the role of being green support/utility than a red icon sapper as a damager

can i spam /comeon on imc

/comeon imc, stop imc’ing us!

/20comeonbs

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Hunter’s retarded pet ai can be fixed by /comeon or recon but IMC cant be fixed. They cant even fix 99% of the game so nah. /comeon wont work on IMC.

They have unlimited mutes and unlimited unlisted topic works though. kakaka

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most of sapper skills aren’t reliable, but with some setting is decent.

stake is instant 3 hit with 2 overheat, not bad for low level skill but the problem is small hit area.
punji is really situational can be really strong in some situation and setting
other skills are as you said.

I found someone usefalcon3 to bring some potential of sapper to decent level.

ps I too gonna reset sap2 out of my build too(broom attribute72 still not good enough for 2circle), cuz I’m not going falcon3 with that character.

Yup sapper and hunter are weak, but still better than Sadhu i think…
archer is trash again. Sadhu is worse than trash

Wanna have funbeing an archer? well then go A1>Qs3>Wu3 orrrrr A2>R1>Sc3>Rougue1>Mergen <3

BTW i have 4 archers and cannoneers, Fletchers, Musks are bssssshhheeett

I played sadhu at kTOS launch (when it was even worse than it’s now) and now I reset my archer into sapper2-falcon3
Sapper2 is horrible. Sadhu is much better.
Sapper literally has only 1 useful skill (punji) which is incredibly hard to set up and not worth investing more than 1 point (because it doesn’t scale at all). And you cannot use it in a party (they will hate you). If you don’t have aiming from falconer3 the skill is absolute trash too.
In actual gameplay I only use stakes. That’s it. And it’s trash too because of slow cast animation. But I simply don’t have anything better in my rotation.
Sapper is for masochists.

speaking of colors, why is the former WB meta a yellow? haha

i will just leave this here

Well… the Firepower Attributes aren’t still up to date yet.

It’s sufficient for the class. with the boost it just made it better.
Players just don’t understand that SAPPER is a PHYSICAL MEELE damage class. That requires setup and PHYSICAL debuff to work amazing.

Baiscally it’s a party dps. Then again players are all expecting it to work like Dragoon 2 :joy:

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we already have that in the current patch

about this …

its already did

and…I’m having lots of fun with my sapper

Do you know how these attributes work?
They simply increase skill’s base damage.
And it’s flat
Yeah also note that claymore for example has 300% damage modifier in the caption. But it’s nothing like cannoneer’s or musketeer’s 300% damage.
Cannon blast damage is calculated somewhat like this:
(“patk” + “skiill dmg”) * (100 + 300) * 0.01
How do you think claymore works? I’ll help you. Assume you have 2.5 damage multiplier attribute enabled
"patk" * (100 + 300) * 0.01 + “skill dmg” * 2.5
And that’s it.

Well considering the attribute’s and caption multipliers are nearly same if it gets properly updated the result will resembe cannon blast. Sadly the damage is too low and setup is too hard and slow.

which part of the content you having fun with? 300+ maps? I had fun back in pre 280 content with my sapper.