as a healer i having hard time grinding so i need to join a party yet they always reject me ,then a party suddenly invite me to join
i don know if i should be happy of sad since we are all healer 
and then the leader says âthey always need us in doing dungeon yet they donât want us in grinding partyâ. is it really like this? 
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I say they are dumb for saying they do not need cleric based classes for grinds .__.
High level cleric deprotected zone easily helps killing things that tend to be aggressive and approaches your pt mates
Krivis can kill fast with Zaibas and allow Phys type party mates to kill fast with Zalciai
Priests can make practically all phys type party mates kill fast with blessing and sacrament. Add to that being Chaplain and everything practically explodes on a 1-few hits.
Dievderbys help in sustaining SP and skill spamming with their statues as well as keeping a zone cleared with their owl statues should they be C2 Diev
Paladins can easily make any dark/demonic type enemy explode with smite, add to that the extra utility that they give with their other skills
Bokor practically adds to the DPS due to being gimmicky with their zombies which adds to the fun
etc etc etc
TL;DR
Those who reject all of you cleric based classes for grinding are no brainers.
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Yes early level swordsman can overkill mostly every thing in sign. Archer and Wiz are better mobber. They donât need hp recover so.
You shouldnât have a hard time grinding. Itâs a matter of fighting the right kind of mobs.
Cleric: fight non-flying dark types
Krivis: fight ice types
Priest: fight dark types
Diev: fight plant types
Bokor: ??? (Idk anything about bokor)
Sadhu: fight mobs one at a time
Paladin: fight devil/mutant types
Etc.
Early game itâs obnoxious to fight flyers. So only kill flyers for quests, and grind in areas without them.
But youâre a cleric. You shouldnât run out of health ever, and you have the best natural SP regen in the game. Youâre the king of sustain.
iâm actually planning to make a full support char most of my skill are heal and buffs :V
Whatâs your build and stats?
c1>kriv>priest>priest>
most of my skill are all buffs and heal
i put most of my stat in con:int:spr ratio 1:3:2 <- idk if its right stat distribution tho cause some said cleric based char mostly have mixed stats
Donât worry.
Things will change at late game where every monster have 100k+ HP and deal 2-5k damage to players.
Early content of ToS is easy to solo. And our damage output is lower than other classes and other classes can do it and their own pace.
Thatâs why I try to not grind as much as possible, gets boring alone.
ToS community suffers from the view that all classes >> cleric for grinding speed. They donât take running out of sp and hp fast into account. Plus they can always use pots, which of course they donât take the expenses into account.
Thatâs why you see parties wanting 4 dps and 1 healer for dungeons. In fact, I often run lv100+ dungeons quicker with 2-3 clerics than 1. Calculation are based on burst damage not steady damage. Priests especially helps to sustain damage while all the skills are on cooldown, and enough healers mean less people have to act like headless chickens.
tl;dr ToS community donât prefer healers. Gotta live with it.
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You shouldnât really have mixed stats. You should be all INT, all SPR, all DEX, or all STR. You get bonus stat points the more points you have in a stat. A little CON is always necessary.
If youâre going full INT you should be going classes that have multi-hit magic damage. Priest is not a magic damage class. Krivis is, Druid is, Sadhu is, Bokor is, Dievdirby is. As an INT build you donât need any SPR. Mana issues go away late game naturally.
If youâre going SPR it means you should be picking up classes that have skills that scale with SPR. This is mostly priest and Chaplain, but also Paladin, Cleric, Krivis, and Pardoner have some SPR scaling spells.
If youâre willing to, you should consider rerolling your character. You donât have to, but Iâm not entirely sure what the goal is with your build, and thatâll probably make it difficult moving into higher levels. Otherwise, since it seems like youâre going support priest, I would put all of your points into SPR and focus on that. Buy a Cafrisun set and your AA buffs should be enough to get you through any grinds youâre forced to do.
Have atleast 50 SPR for your build to be safe and for fast sp recovery. Bokorâs hex scales with SPR also.
If you mean the 10% increase per rank for stats, it only applies to INT and STR.
I am not. You do get an extra 10% per rank bonus to INT and STR, but you also get bonus points for putting points into a stat. I think it starts out as 1 bonus stat point every 5 points you put in, and eventually (at 500+ points in the stat), you get an extra point for every point you put in.
There are extra incentives to go full INT or full STR, but even going full DEX or full SPR (for specific builds) is generally better than splitting your stats a lot.
Thats true. Different stats for different uses.
Just wait until level 200+ grinding. Theyâll cry for healers, lol.
I disagree. High int is also desirable for stronger heal tiles from cleric heals, which constitute the majority of even a priestâs heals.
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I never said anything that disagreed with this?
INT builds are very good. But STR and SPR builds work really well too.
Most healing and dps skills on most Cleric classes are INT based. SPR builds only affect a handful of buffs, and STR builds only two very specific classes and only the dps for those classes. Both builds will have low heals and any magic based damage abilities will be poor as well (along with things like Cure/Healâs damage). In general Iâd say INT should be the primary stat for Clerics, and CON where necessary. SPR in small amounts for mana regen and a few buffs only IF your build calls for it, but I wouldnât even say itâs completely necessary. Although even some of the SPR skills also scale off of INT (Mass Heal for example) so SPR builds are pretty niche.
Stoneskin and Barrier are the only skills maybe worth speccing heavily into SPR for but youâre giving up a LOT to do that, including INT giving you huge heals via Heal and Mass Heal, and fully speccing into Safey Zone gives a ton of block, so the need to fully spec SPR for just those is questionable. I personally donât think itâs worth losing out on everything else. Zalciai does scale off of SPR but most people take Krivis for Zaibas, and Zalciai is just a bonus that is good enough with whatever SPR you have, along with leveling up the attributes.
If you wanna start this, youâll get a lot of lashback 
SPR gives more SP pool after all. INT is mainly for offense.
Sure INT helps heal, mass heal, aspergillum, but those arenât the only skills clerics use.
It really depends on your playstyle. If a stat works for you, it doesnât mean it works for others.
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Weâre having a stat discussion at this point so itâs important to point out that SPR build are niche and most Cleric builds will want high INT - either for support giving high heals, or for magic damage based Clerics needing it for damage. SPR support builds do exist and I didnât say people couldnât play them, but itâs important to point out that theyâre giving up a lot in order to play that way. Even some Priest builds will benefit more from INT than SPR depending on their overall focus. A lot of players just read a quick bit of advice and go with it, not knowing the consequences. You should let those players know what theyâre getting into if they do that.