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Is Chaplain still a solid, viable Rank 5 after Priest 3? Or is there any other alternative?

Class and Rank Cleric
#8

Healer, with a MUCH better AA capability.

Based on experience… I dont enjoy my chaplain much at all :confused:

It is useful for leveling solo. But survival becomes a huge issue. In terms of part play, ur 5 heal tiles might be eaten up by urself when u try to get close and deal damage. Similar to swordsmen, they have the issue of AoE attack ratio limitation. Clerics get a base of 3 AoE atk ratio for their auto attacks, that means u only hit 2 medium sized mobs, clearly a shortfall in clearing packs of mobs.

Oracle is good to counter magic mobs. Counter spell is very useful.

Stat distribution as a Chaplain is similar to Priest. I think you are SPR based?

Btw, aspergillum uses ur Aspersion level and damage. This is well, the main reason why u want to go Chaplain, so I think leaving Aspersion @ 1 is not such a good idea…

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#9

I am going on 1:2:1 CON:INT:SPR type.

I take Aspersion level 1 because Leveling Aspersion only increases the base damage :\ I feel like putting more points in party buffs.

So basically Chaplain is still quite a lackluster compared to other classes? Or it required a completely different build to function TT

#10

My personal preference:
100~150CON, rest into INT/SPR.

INT has rank up bonus. which means better damage into the future.
SPR is great for ur buffs, such as Blessing and Stone Skin.

Aspersion dmg is affected by both SPR and INT.

I see u enjoy party support. I’d go SPR.

To me Chaplain is a hidden class, a class that has no future ranks. You sealed off 1 rank for it. And for this case, its mostly for just 1 skill, explained below.

Chaplain gives u Aspergillium < the reason u chose this class. Its damage is great against dark type enemies, which are plenty. I have a chaplain which does 5.1k per aspergillium strike (counting attributes and buffs etc.) while only 2.Xk dmg on enemies that are not weak to Holy. Adding the fact that our AA rarely hit more than 2 targets, AND needs us to go up close and personal… thats what made me reroll :confused:

^ of course ur experience may differ, but that was mine. IMO make ur CON hit 100 ASAP.

Last Rites, another sacrament. With buff limitation, u gotta decide if it is worth taking up a slot. U may need to buy Daino scrolls or decide to not use some buffs as it can overide yours/ur party members.

Magnus and Capella are both crap. One needs another skill as a pre req, and setting up is -.-… the other, especially with buff limit and such, keeps overwriting urs and ur team buffs.

If support is ur style, Kirvis will be a better option. However take cleric2 asap. 10 tiles healing is a lotta different.

Might want go Kirvis > PD after cleric 2 if u are an INT type.

edit: If u would continue with ur build, i’d put Sacrament at level 1 since u could buy it off pardoners. Resurrection put it to Lv4, Revive could be lower, but it depends on how u feel.

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#11

Okay XD, guess the trend now is kinda not good for a Chaplain.

I am currently C1 P3, so should I go C2, K1, O1, and Kaba/PD? Or C2, K1, K2, Kaba/PD, skipping Oracle?

#12

The cap now is Rank 7…

Team support = Cleric 2 is sufficient and essential.

C2 > P3.

The remaining 2…

Oracle is mainly for Counter Spell. 30s magic immunity inside the bubble. Prophecy to resist status ailments. Rest are not that important but fun to play with, like resetting and change.

Kabbalist… R7x is a good PvP skill, but people are learning how to counter it. In PvE its an on demand shield, against 1 hit. Ein Sof synergize with Mass Heal, as when ur HP increases by 100%, ur mass heal would also increase proportionately.

Kirvis… Daino. But if u are picking this class just for Daino, I find it a waste.

PD… Incinerate is a good aoe spell. uses INT. Requires status conditions on monsters to take effect. Kirvis’s Zalcai and Akuras are both good sources of aoe wide conditions. Each status ailment adds 1s to incinerate’s duration. Bloodletting works like oracle’s prophecy. Healing factor is a great single target regen spell.

Thats just a rough outline, forums have more experts on the relative fields, do consult them too :slight_smile:

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#13

Now you are moving over to the class lineup I choose, lol. Cleric2/Priest3/Krivis/PD is my own build, but SPR based.
Took Krivis to have more synergy with being SPR heavy and ofc Daino.

also take a look at this thread.

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#14

Thank you everyone for your feedback =D

#15

i have a question, does weapon power really necessary? and can i just use a Five Hammer (lv40 mace, with +5 Aoe ratio) for better splash damage in later levels of the game?

#16

Five Hammer, good AoE Ratio, not so good durability.

Attack power is not what u are after, its the magical attack it provides as it boosts ur Aspergillum damage.

I use Catacombs club as it adds +303 magic atk and 1 aoe ratio. I wont upgrade it however, an upgraded sup corona might be better.

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#17

thanks for the insight, but still i might keep Five Hammer for farming groups of mobs in lower levels

#18

Definately. U are more than welcome to have an arsenal of weapons to suit the situation’s needs. Five hammer would allow u to hit an additional 3 more medium size monsters, try invest in a vubbe fighter gloves too.

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#20

for me i play chaplain once and I quite like when fighting with mob grinding but I dont like fighting in dungeon and mission becuase you hv to keep bufing yourself and healing other and quite get knockback easily and lag due to animation. so I change to play dierv/druid which i feel better dps and run smoothly griding/dungeon/misson with allittle downside on the cooldown time

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#21

I’d suggest you go Cleric 2 for rank 5.

Rank 6 it really depends, like I said, PvE I’d go pardoner, since you have plenty Spr, you will benefit from increase magic defense. PvP you can go oracle.

Rank 7 PD and Kab are both great, they both benefit from int so it doesn’t really matter what you choose, all you need is to look at circle 2 of those classes and decide which ones you like better. Seems like Kab c2 will have more PvE uses, while as PD c2 has more dmg and PvP uses.

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#22

i’m building as high spr support

cleric > priest3 > chaplain > krivis > cleric2

i’m doing pure pve so i don’t need plague doctor in this build

get chaplain asap,very huge power spike at rank5

extra 2 proc of blessing and property damage isn’t a joke

#23

don’t build int

spr provide more benefit than int

stronger blessing, stone skin, monstrance, deprotected zone, zalciai

mixing int/spr is bad idea it lower your potential sum stat will lower

choose high spr with some con or high int with some con, don’t mix it

high int with some con is fine it’s not good as spr build but provide magic damage for rank6-7 skill

#25

i just use dispeller as i use it on any char that i’m playing

i’m going for inquisitor at rank8 look like it has most synergy with chaplain

i’m also lazy to waste time on pd quest with high spr char

#27

You know about inquisitor right? Seems like The best go for Monk builds and paladino builds, i woul drop that chaplain on second build

#29

But if you’re going spirit monk why would you not get krivis c1 for zalcaia?

#31

Well if you are going a SPR based build, as well as physical damage dealing class, Krivis buff Zalciai can let you forgo getting Dex (evasion not included).


As when enemies (non-flying) are debuffed they will lose crit resistance. Unlike defense debuffs that stop at 0, crit resist debuffs go into the negatives. What this essentially means is that you effectively give yourself crit chance agaisnt those enemies, as well as increasing crit chance for others.

Now not only will you be getting crit chance (see above sentences), but by stepping on the circle Zalciai makes will also grant you or allies a crit attack buff.

My suggestion to you is to tryout a new cleric character that goes krivis at rank 2 with Spr to see how you like it. Since getting to rank 2 or 3 is not that time consuming and rather easy, you should test krivis out.
Often than not you may find yourself looking at something and think that it looks boring or fun, then when you actually try it your opinion may change.

If you do attempt to go Krivis for Zalciai put at minimum 3 points into Zalciai. This is so you can unlock the the attribute for more crit att.

(Sorry for bad grammar and stuff just woke up, to lazy to make my text look appealing)

Edit: I can vouch that with Spr the crit debuff/crit att is still very usable at high levels, especially when combined with crit gems.

Edit 2: Here is what I would do if I had Krivis on a Spr build: -> http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/aljzouitsr/ <- As Zaibas is a good leveling skill, this is especially so when paired with priest blessing. (them multi hit skills)

#34

If you ask me why I did go for Chaplain after Priest 3 I’d tell you it was because I didn’t put any points in damage skills. I’d like to have a good support.

Also, as Chaplain I am able to solo whenever I want. Aspergillum is a skill that provides a lot of AA damage and not only this reason Chaplain is a good to go. It’s all about preference IMO.