Yeah lemme just whip up 3 hats with 30 dark damage ea, get a friendly neighbourhood sorcerer for that sick 50 from cat buff for a grand total of 140. Then lemme kill a mob, stand where it died, pray another mob doesnt walk in and blows up that invocation spirit in the process, so i can get +70 dark damage. seemsgood
itâs free damage per tick⌠i wonât really say itâs garbage . If it is you can call venom/arde all this the same as garbage as well. -_-âŚ
If you have it at level 8/9 itâs perma up time O_o⌠is it really that bad? Since your primary role is not bossing but mobbing or AOE CONTROL. i woulda say.
You realize you need to stand on top of a Invocation-generated spirit for that attribute to kick in right? And it even takes yet another row 1 buff slot. Youâll basically see 2 invocation icons: 1 with a duration (your invocation buff), 1 with no duration (the attribute, itâll remain only as long as youâre standing on top of that spirit).
invocation is a must lv8 imo. and yes any wizard dps = mobbing or AOE control. let other classes do the bossing.
buff slots should never be a issue⌠unless you are telling me you are unable to afford dainosâŚ
This is the same case as comparing situation. Itâs extremely useful at mobbing but itâs utter useless at bossing. So why not make the best out of it.
Unless you are telling me you are gonna throw it on POA that has shieety AOE and is only one a singular point and needs peeps to literally WALK PASS it.
i rather save it with level 1 POA + POA scroll + invocation for mobbing verus 0 invocation and max poa. Once you get the initial invocation rolling itâs delicious.
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True, but i think something people are forgetting here is the magic defense doesnât really go away just because you have more magic attack. If you have 3k magic attack you wonât hit a 2.5k magic defense mob for 1 damage anymore, but youâll still have your entire damage calculated on a 500 damage base. 500 * 1.5 from quickcast * 2 from attribute = 1500 ticks.
this is pretty much it. do not forget how warlocks are the best in making money when you have invocation.
Hey, i have maxed invocation myself. Still doesnât change the fact youâre defending a utterly garbage attribute for it, the fact that it has no damage attribute of its own, or that not having invocation at all in favor of more points in pole of agony is perfectly fine.
I am not defending it i am saying it have itâs uses.
Thatâs about it.
Unless you donât want to make use of it.
Since you had/ideally better than maxing POA or already added to it.
Why not make the best of out compared to totally abandon it lol. Thatâs my point.
I agree with you on this regarding the damage base issue but IMC differs as they want you to play numbers with +25 rods + 200% transcend and up
Yeah better make a necro and go at dina
Even better in a few patches when we can equip our pets with gear we all gon afk farm YO.
I am not saying that invoc is bad, itâs just situational. Yes itâs good for the leveling progress, but that should never be your goal, the goal is end game.
When i hit lvl 280 on rank 7 what was left to do ?
Saalus well itâs mainly boss
Rush dongeon its mainly boss
Field boss well⌠itâs a boss
And ET wish is mob and boss
Fact is 90% of the time invoc was useless, and i honnestly believe that when we will hit 330 it will be that same exact stuff. But i might be wrong eh.
it might be it might not be. There doesnât seem any thing better to add now⌠sooooooo lolâŚ
Hopefully C3 will get better. Worse case it will just be a ET bot
I know, it definitely does have its uses - i have it maxed and i advocate for it. Iâm not arguing Invocation itself is bad, just that the so called 30% damage attribute is actually a joke, and that itâs still missing a damaging attribute (honestly Invocation should just take your Theurgeâs values as far as base damage and attributes go).
Yeah meanwhile physical defense on mobs is dramatically lower, and physical skills generally only go through pdef 1~4 times while magic gets reduced 30+ times. 
So while weâre getting a good weapon just to be able to hit â â â â , everyone else is getting a good weapon to obliterate â â â â .
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because of invocation i had the extra dps to do 6f/12f/16f in ET without a SR.
also you make like 700-800k in 10 hours afking at dina bee while you can easily make that in 1.5 hours with warlock.
video for your reference 
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Life sucks as a wizard 
Amen to that brother
from absolute god to absolute trash
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rly fkin does 
Itâs so funny when you think about it though that we say âlife sucks as a wizardâ âfrom absolute god to absolute trashâ when in reality wizard only ever had 1 good dps path? If you werenât wiz3ele3wl you were honestly trash as far as pve dps goes, and now even that is pretty bad 
I think they wanted to change the meta i mean in KTOS elememe was really dominant like no match.
So they made physical way stronger, but that was not enough so they made magical a lot weaker and VOILA.
I think they just did not do enough game design test and balancing.