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IMC, what now? what have i done wrong?

+6, +11, +16, +21 all have increased amounts.

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"After years of working very hard i’m finally a millionaire.
So i went to the casino and bet all my money, hoping to get even more…
To my dismay, i lost almost all the money i’ve earned over the last years.

Dear casino owners, what should i do now? What have i done wrong?
What can i do so i win at the casino the next time i have some money to gamble with?"

The answer is : Don’t trust/rng gambling systems.
They are deliberately made to make people waste money/time and make them feel its their own fault when they fail so they try again, costing even more money and time.

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Totally agree, i find hilariuos how some people really do think it’s fault of the player and not of the stupid rng enhancement system.

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Imc must let it this way… I will never forget how diamond anvils (Glitch?) broke the game enhancing alot of players equipments to +20 making a legion of super players before velcoff stuff. Upgrade must be safe until + 10 (or less i dont know, imc chooses). What comes after this must be RNG (And with a RARE chance of success) to prevent alot of super mans in the game.

5 fails in a row! Nice RNG based game.

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Taking set effect is more important than getting +11

Even if you are lucky to get +21 or +40

Do you have enough silver to extract ichor?

The system is a joke.

Usually people that show highly enchanted items have the silver to enchant many copies of the same item, so if one of them is +4 0 pot, they will have one that is +16 or better. I’ve started to do that for armor: instead of enchanting one, I wait until I have my whole armor/pants/gloves/boots set and start enchanting them all at the same time, switching once I get a fail to avoid “failure streaks”.

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Then what about that? It’s the 7th weapon I crafted (you need average 6 weeks full reroll and 150 millions)

This is the reason why i am just getting a full set of velcoffer armor, and using +16 380 primus. The odds of getting a +16 velco are slim to none.

+11 velco is reasonable with golden anvils tho.

There is a difference though.

Casino is an option, if you want to throw away your money for a chance at getting more money then you can or you can take the stable way and work your way/build up your funds which is what people usually do

tos enhancement system is the only option for getting a weapon stronger. YOU HAVE TO play the rng game. Some items can be bought on market while most cannot be bought on market when you get to the upper bound. You just have to rng over and over until you get it. If there was an option to not rng the rate then im sure OP or anyone would not be complaining.

Transcendence is a good example. You can be stupid and gamble or go 100%. If people gamble and fail they go “oh well” because they knew the risk and decided to take it willingly

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10k patk… I’m not sure what server you are playing on because I’m just barely reaching 10k and I can solo dps velcoffer in like 20-25min. Realistically you only need about 5-6k to contribute to dps. Solmiki is literally no gear requirement. What?

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10k patk is a dumb requirement for velcoffer, let alone solmiki. Maybe if you want 10 minute runs, OK but that is when a static group already has it on farm status.

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Again what…? Most pug parties finish in 30-40 mins. The most geared parties can run 15minutes but that is a very little amount of parties as people like to spread out their geared dps to run more runs

I’m just surprised that so many people who play the endgame rng act shocked and demotivated when they are unlucky and complain about wasted time and money, when instead they should be well-aware, before even starting to overupgrade their equips, that TOS itself is layers upon layers of rngs, deliberately designed to waste your time and money with rng-BS (just like casinos).

Question about enhancing weapons. Does the difference in ATK between +6 and +11 increase when the weapon reaches higher level of transcendence?

Trans is based off on base physical damage numbers. Enhancing has always been a bonus on +6, +11, +16, +21 and so on… Kinda surprised you are not aware of this bro…

What server are you on, man? Asking for someone with 10k patk is insane, you would pretty much need highly upgraded Velco weapon to even get that, especially on a 1h class. That’s just too much.

It’s far more important on Velco that you have defense. Physical defense, and about 8k saves you from being oneshot by most things. You could have a +40 380 weapon but if you have 4k pdef and 30k HP buffed, I wouldn’t bring you. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m in like 80% of the velco runs on TOP 1 DPS with mash bow +11 transcendent 10. And Let’s be honest, +11 isn’t too hard and you should be able to T10 a lot of things now if you run saalus constantly. Most of the shout I see on Klaipeda server looking for DPS for velco only ask for survivability which is much more important than a +21 weapon. Which server you on?

This game is so frustrating, I can not refine, I can not extract ichor, I’ve already broken 2 masinios and nothing, everything in this game is reason to be sad.

“over upgrade” when in fact most people are just trying to get to +11 (not that easy really) and perhaps to +16 because somehow it has a huge gap of damage difference.

Ya I as a player am well aware of the RNG, but in order to progress, that’s the one and only thing I can do. If IMC decides to put that one thing behind RNG, players lost is going to happen, and indeed it happened.

A revamped weapon enhance system is long overdue no matter how you put it