This is the reason why i am just getting a full set of velcoffer armor, and using +16 380 primus. The odds of getting a +16 velco are slim to none.
+11 velco is reasonable with golden anvils tho.
There is a difference though.
Casino is an option, if you want to throw away your money for a chance at getting more money then you can or you can take the stable way and work your way/build up your funds which is what people usually do
tos enhancement system is the only option for getting a weapon stronger. YOU HAVE TO play the rng game. Some items can be bought on market while most cannot be bought on market when you get to the upper bound. You just have to rng over and over until you get it. If there was an option to not rng the rate then im sure OP or anyone would not be complaining.
Transcendence is a good example. You can be stupid and gamble or go 100%. If people gamble and fail they go “oh well” because they knew the risk and decided to take it willingly
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10k patk… I’m not sure what server you are playing on because I’m just barely reaching 10k and I can solo dps velcoffer in like 20-25min. Realistically you only need about 5-6k to contribute to dps. Solmiki is literally no gear requirement. What?
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10k patk is a dumb requirement for velcoffer, let alone solmiki. Maybe if you want 10 minute runs, OK but that is when a static group already has it on farm status.
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Again what…? Most pug parties finish in 30-40 mins. The most geared parties can run 15minutes but that is a very little amount of parties as people like to spread out their geared dps to run more runs
I’m just surprised that so many people who play the endgame rng act shocked and demotivated when they are unlucky and complain about wasted time and money, when instead they should be well-aware, before even starting to overupgrade their equips, that TOS itself is layers upon layers of rngs, deliberately designed to waste your time and money with rng-BS (just like casinos).
Question about enhancing weapons. Does the difference in ATK between +6 and +11 increase when the weapon reaches higher level of transcendence?
Trans is based off on base physical damage numbers. Enhancing has always been a bonus on +6, +11, +16, +21 and so on… Kinda surprised you are not aware of this bro…
What server are you on, man? Asking for someone with 10k patk is insane, you would pretty much need highly upgraded Velco weapon to even get that, especially on a 1h class. That’s just too much.
It’s far more important on Velco that you have defense. Physical defense, and about 8k saves you from being oneshot by most things. You could have a +40 380 weapon but if you have 4k pdef and 30k HP buffed, I wouldn’t bring you. 
I’m in like 80% of the velco runs on TOP 1 DPS with mash bow +11 transcendent 10. And Let’s be honest, +11 isn’t too hard and you should be able to T10 a lot of things now if you run saalus constantly. Most of the shout I see on Klaipeda server looking for DPS for velco only ask for survivability which is much more important than a +21 weapon. Which server you on?
This game is so frustrating, I can not refine, I can not extract ichor, I’ve already broken 2 masinios and nothing, everything in this game is reason to be sad.
“over upgrade” when in fact most people are just trying to get to +11 (not that easy really) and perhaps to +16 because somehow it has a huge gap of damage difference.
Ya I as a player am well aware of the RNG, but in order to progress, that’s the one and only thing I can do. If IMC decides to put that one thing behind RNG, players lost is going to happen, and indeed it happened.
A revamped weapon enhance system is long overdue no matter how you put it
Oh no that I already know, or at least I had always assumed and just confirmed recently.
I was just asking to see if the difference increases with trans. So since it is based on base damage, difference doesn’t increase it seems. Well that’s good news.
Oh, okay. 
yeah thats why a +11 trans 10 is, what I would say, an attainable goal to have… Instead of fussing over wanting to have +16 or more coz we all know there is pure luck involved with it too…
big mistake … you didnt use hulk
I’m sorry for your loss.
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