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IMC deleted the announcement talking about the Open Beta

I was going to pay for the Founder’s Pack, but there’s no way i will buy it with the lack of information and the shady stuff going on the last couple of hours.

It’s a new viral marketing campaign!

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So, i guess they have something like IMC online commentator.

It definitely is super shady. I think IMC needs to just be honest with their player base and make a new announcement explaining that they changed their mind about having an OBT, and explain why they changed their mind and deleted the original post.

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This is ToS , not Granado Espada

Besides …

At least they plan for F2P model … unlike Daum

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the same people in charge of major marketing decisions are making the decisions on all their titles ToS, GE, and Wolfknights

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http://puu.sh/nIhhz/6bdeecdfa7.png

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HEY IMC , I’M TRYING TO LEARN TO PLAY RIKI. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SKILL BUILD: SHOULD I MAX BACKSTAB LIKE YOU BACKSTABBED YOUR LOYAL COMMUNITY, SMOKESCREEN SO I CAN SILENCE MY CRITICS , OR PERMANENT INVISIBILITY LIKE HOW YOU HAVE NO PRESENCE ON YOUR OWN FORUM ?

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Let me help them make it:

“Our financial team just revised our budget and realized that STEAM publishing cost is way over our estimates because we are expecting a player base in excess of 30,000. Also as you know a key investor pulled out his funds last year which puts us at an extremely short position. Therefore the executive board has decided that we cannot offer an OBT without an initial injection of funds. To allow ToS to complete its development phase we need to enlist the help of players who will pay for an early access to both provide us much needed funds and 3 additional months to polish the game for our F2P community. By the way please keep this news away from other investors so they don’t pull out their funds before this game takes off. We greatly appreciate your continued patience, support and love for ToS. Thank you very much!”

  • the above is a fictional scenario.
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Even if there was something like that in question, rather than greed. It wouldn’t justify the 3 months advantage and no wipe after it.

One Week? Sure. Two Weeks? Okay. Three Months? Nope.

If they did it with a wipe, go ahead and play 5 months, I don’t care, and I would get over the fact that I was lied to my face and that they even tried to hide it now, lol. Shameless.

i can kinda accept it if they had announced it will be a founder’s server from the start.
But no, thy left us with coming soon for 2 weeks then they decided to do this ■■■■.

Bait-and-switch. I hope IMC says… something soon. This is looking really bad.

I think they intend to start a new server when F2P goes online. Also this isn’t really a race, as there’s no end game content made yet.

The Founding server will likely just be that… a founding server, with founders and a much smaller population in the future.

@razuhiko
Yea most people are pissed not because of the pay to access but because they were expecting a FREE unrestriced OBT. That’s more because of a poorly managed announcement than their choice of raising funds though.

Hopefully. Greed makes people do stupid things though, so I’ll definitely be expecting transfers to all the servers, just so I’m not pissed when it actually happens.

You know, as well as I that most of these p2p players are in it for a chance to p2w while they can.

You’ll notice the disappointed crowd if they decide not to allow transfers or anything like it.

Technically this isn’t a bait and switch because they did not obtain any financial gain from the player base yet. It’s more accurate to describe it as an announcement that didn’t follow through precisely. They announced an OBT but instead offered an Early Access OBT with the real OBT in June.

It’s up to you to get angry over that or not. Personally I think its reasonable as IMC is probably short on funds + the game is really really incomplete yet.

@Skygrinder
Let’s be pissed when it actually happens, and live in bliss until conclusive evidence proves otherwise. I’ll pay for Early Access but I disprove of P2W or character transfers. So that’s 1 less of those P2P players you have to worry about.

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Whoever maxes out first and reaches OBT’s end game will potentially control the economy. Also imagine if I rush Pardoner C2 and be the first one to sell buffs.

It IS a race whether you participate or not. [quote=“CookyKim, post:73, topic:145293”]
The Founding server will likely just be that… a founding server, with founders and a much smaller population in the future.
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So the people who invest in the game early gets the shorter end of the stick; how much sense does that make? o.o

You’re trying really hard to paint IMC in a positive light when they’ve been dishonest, lacking communication, covering up things now, and have mislead players.

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Or i’m just giving the benefit of the doubt. IMC doesn’t have a past track record of “cash grabs” and this is not their first game.[quote=“KingSponge, post:76, topic:145293”]
So the people who invest in the game early gets the shorter end of the stick; how much sense does that make? o.o
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I don’t know. It isn’t supposed to. Who will pay $50 for an unfinished game unless it’s a donation. If it’s a donation why do you care if it makes sense or not?

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I agree how they did it is pretty lame, but I also think they needed to get rid of the advertising for something they were no longer offering us.

It would have been better to replace references to open beta with an acknowledgement that open beta was part of the plan, but that it has been replaced by this early access crap.

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That would have been pretty bad reputation though… for people who didn’t know about the OBT at all.