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I Wanted To Like This Game

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#1

I really wanted to like this game, but there are waaaay too many problems wrong with it. I got to level 233 and I have compiled a list of all the major problems I personally found with it.

#1 - This game is ONLY quests (with the few dungeons) until level 150+. This means you will be killing 5 spiders and collecting 10 plants until level 150. FUN.

#2. - After you reach 150, then you get to GRIND (which is sadly more enjoyable than questing).

#3 - There’s only like 4 grinding locations in the entire game (until you reach 280). And how many maps are there?

#4 - There’s nothing to do after you reach rank 7 at level 225. I got rank 7 and was like YEAAAH NEW SKILLS… for about a day. Then I realized there was no purpose to get higher level. No more content. I ended up spamming duels to people in Fedimian which was fun, but that’s all the content atm. Duels.

#5 - Endgame content is creating a new character and leveling that up.

#6 - This game discourages group play. You have to use a megaphone to even communicate with other people on the server via shout (which you can only get 5 megaphone a day, and that’s if you don’t buy any soul crystal, in which case is 1 megaphone a day). If you don’t have soul crystal you will probably not get boss drops if you die on a boss, as the cube will sit on the ground while you run back and disappear. Yeah, they’re kind of necessary. The priest revive skill doesn’t work half the time and they usually can’t see your body.

#7 - The small group events that are available, are LIMITED (3 dungeon a day, IF you’re a token user, 3 mission IF you’re a token user).

#8 - These already LIMITED events have LONG QUEUES. I’m on Orsha, and I’ve had to wait anywhere from 5 minutes up to 30 minutes for queues. No thanks.

#9 - They limit shouting with megaphone for party, then they limit dungeon/mission entries, then they make you queue for ages, and THEN if you get lucky and get in, you have to get LUCKY again and pray you have a healer. If you don’t have a healer then dungeons are incredibly slow as your team will be healing at campfires after every few pulls (esp. at higher lvl when mobs are ranged/magic).

#10 - Basically you have about a 5% of successfully doing dg/mission per day.

#11 - I play c3 psy, and gravity pole crashes your game. This is a bug they’ve had since beta. What skill crashes your game? AND OTHERS. This mostly happens when mob density is high and lots of people. Guess what. That means after you hit 150+ and start grinding, you CANT USE YOUR MAIN DPS SKILL AS PSY WHICH IS GRAV POLE CUZ IT WILL CRASH YOUR FKN PARTY.

#12 - After you crash from doing 1 skill, you will die and have to repair.

#13 - You can’t even duel in this game without having to repair gear.

#14 - No target lock on mouse mode

#15 - Why the actual fk is there a 2 day wait to retrieve silver on market?

#16 - There are no stat resets

#17 - There are no circle resets

#18 - I actually don’t mind not having resets, BUT WHEN THE FKN GAME DOESNT TELL U THINGS IN SKILL DESCRIPTION LIKE GRAV POLE WILL CRASH YOUR FKN GAME WHEN U FKN USE IT FK. THEN YES I MIND. ALSO THAT THIS GAME MAKES ZERO SENSE AND SKILLS DONT EVEN SCALE WITH ATTACK, THEN YES I MIND.

#19 - There is no chat cooldown. This means bots can endlessly spam normal chat all day. Uhm… is this hard to make or somethin?

#20 - The quest line is literally cancer. It don’t really matter since u can just go back at like lv 200 and do lv 40 quests, but the fact that they make u bunnyhop around the map? wut.? git gud christ. Zero logic questline ftw?

#21 - Whenever you ask support anything via main website, they will reply with something like:
Hello Savior,

Thank you for contacting us.

As for your concern, there are no updates regarding future server transfer. Kindly keep an eye out on our official website regarding your concern.

Should you have any other concern, do not hesitate to contact us again.

Regards,
Tree of Savior Support Team

----This basically means fk u go die. We don’t care about the game. WE NO SPEKA ENGLISH. GIVE U AUTOMATED RESPONSE BAI.

#22 - In PvP, all classes have some skill that will pretty much 1 shot other classes. Even clerics. Not much skill involved, basically whoever gets the jump on other person wins. Aka go scout u win the game.

#23 - It’s getting pay2win. I can’t tell you how many “WTT token for arde dagger” in the past week. Have fun spending hours getting that 1-5% chance drop from boss, while these guys throw money at the game and buy it in a minute.

#24 - Targeting feels clunky at best. Mouse mode has no target lock on.

#25 - Soloing (which is encouraged) is almost impossible for support classes. C3 priest, linker, etc. Have fun toy hammer auto-attacking mobs to death until lv 150-200.

#26 - Who designed the costumes? It was the same person who created questline? I KNEW IT! #icwutudidthere

#27 - Trading system… kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

#28 - When I remember some more things I’ll let ya know i go lunch now huehue

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#2

what i agree about this the mst is the questing part, questing is so boring and it gives me aids.
heres questing:

herpe trail: questline:

  1. kill 10 monsters - turn in to sally the farmer
  2. collect 5 “x” from the monsters - turn in
  3. collect 20 whiteroot plants (which have a 95% chance to poison you and not even give you a plant)
  4. collect 10 pig leg (which has a 2% drop chance, like really? its a leg for gods sake and it never drops? this is actually inspired by one of the hogma quests somehwere in the lvl 70-90 maps. forgot which map though, you had to collect teeth)
  5. place down 5 crystals ( which have a 500 sec cd and get interrupted if you get hit, why do the v items have a cd anyway, except the v items where you 1 shot monsters.)
    6.kill boss (only “fun” type of quest)
    7.collect 10 frog tounge (again, 1% drop chance)
  6. go to herpe crossroad
  7. exact same quests just renamed and diferent monsters.

absolutely no diversity in quests… the most interesting quest is that one at lemprasa pond (?) where you sneak past the security balls, but that quests is sreiously bugged, you can walk through the balls and not get caught, and you can be nowhere near a ball and get sent back to the begenning.

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#3

Wow, i was fully prepared to bust out the troll mode here but, despite the irritation in your writing, you have listed almost every single thing that has been making me have to really struggle to keep playing ToS. The sad thing is that I don’t trust IMC to ever fix even half of these irritating issues which also discourages me from continuing to play.

The only reason I hang out on the forums is just waiting around hoping for good news that will probably never happen. Or it will happen, but after 13-14 years (They update so fricken slow I’m going to die from old age waiting. Seriously, we wait a month and get a patch that adds loading art and a few extra crystals? What is their development team doing? Drinking coffee and watching YouTube?)

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#4

maybe they are trolling the forums

#5

Dank rant OP. Most of your points are more or less BabyRage quality, but you do have some legitimacy in some.

Mainly, the skill game/channel crashes, the quest system, and perhaps the Grinding bit if you refer to it more among the lines of Spawn Rate. But then again, most MMORPGs don’t really have un-repetitive questing systems. At one point, you’ll realize that a grand majority of them suck. ToS is of the latter unfortunately.

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#6

Cant say i agree with you on everything…Yea, they could add more content and fix some bugs. increase mob density. content and bug fixes will happen, not sure about mob density.

Ill only comment on a few of them…

megaphone being limited is good. many people including myself asked for this in cbt.

soloing impossible? and you include c3 priest in your list? lol. any class is easy to level.

20 is funny because most people dont want to go in a linear path.

22 add more con? expect your pve build to do well in pvp?

dont really want to comment on everything…

#7

29 - No Loli abuse

30 - No Loli that’s why

31 - But then no Loli

32 - Where Loli companion

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#8

You just don’t like the game… Same happened to me, i was expecting far more, but got dissapointed in everything, starting with the trade sistem.
It would be much easier to pay per month for the game, a Full game, even with a high price i’ll pay for it… but the Token system is terrible, they don’t know what to do now…compensating players, reducing prices, etc.

The core development of this game is what is wrong, it can be fun sometimes, killing bosses, questing, the visual art is incredible, but this not change the fact that the main idea is in the wrong way, it looks that the only think that matter is to sell their product no matter what the consecuenses.

I only hope that a bigger company buy the rights of ToS, it has potencial, but not with IMC.

Everybody thought it was a new Ragnarok, but is far far away to be almost 1% of what RO was. The free users suffers here.

This game is Doomed.

#9

I am finding myself logging in and just doing dungeon runs then barely doing anything else anymore…
Just boss rush hope for gear and that’s about it.
The constant talt doesn’t help with motivation either.+

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#10

OMG~ so much big font. must be very serious and important.

hm, TL;Read Anyway … nope just more useless complaining.

no, this means “stop asking about server transfers, you damned twat. there are none, and there are none planned. the information is easily available on the website if you only BOTHERED to look.”

look dude, if you don’t like the game, then leave. we don’t care.
this sort of complaining is useless. half your “points” don’t even -have- a point.

the rest of them are literally nothing new.

lmao, so true.

search the forums for “mini runecaster”; it was a post just the other day.

#11

You forgot one of the most important points.

  1. Mobs respawn so slow that you are REQUIRED to channel change constantly, ruining the “meditational grind”.
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#12

Thanks for pointing out stuff that I might have to deal with down the road. As the supposed spiritual successor to Ragnarok Online, I expected the game to be more open unlike modern MMOs. But now, I find it’s even more restrictive than others in the same genre. I went in expecting more freedom, came out kind of disappointed.

I was especially disappointed when I found out the trade restrictions first hand. I was supposed to give some money to a friend and when we couldn’t figure out how to do so, went on to Google only to find out it doesn’t exist in the first place. And then that’s how I found out about the rest of the trading restrictions even for token users. It kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

I’ll probably still be monitoring for changes on the forums and on the subreddit but rest assured I’ve kind of lost some of the initial hype and interest I had for the game.

#13

the beta was a better game than the current version is

way more dungeon entries, faster respawns, no stupid trade restrictions, people were able to create buy-in shops over their heads. Why did they remove everything, which made the beta enjoyable and replaced it with bs

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#14

Like RO Merchant shops?
And they got rid of that? FCK this game… Ok I quit for real fck IMC.

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#15

ya, they had that in the beta and removed it

atleast it was possible to buy items iirc. Selling wasnt possible, but you had no auctionhouse- and trade restrictions

oh i forgot to mention: monster gems couldnt break in the beta, another great feature that they changed to bs …

#16

I’m doing exactly the same thing

#17

Wow I didn’t know they had those. Had I gotten into beta, I would have sorely missed that. I hope they bring it back.

EDIT:
Pipe dream, I know. But that was the fun in Ragnarok, wading through shops in the Prontera “market” to find the best deals.

#18

if you ask me i say, nobody give a damn how you feel. either you play or dont. if you dont want to go and move on with your life

dont worry you wont be missed or anything

#19

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/13126634_613433915472928_463268054_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI0NDE2Nzc5NTEzMTMxNzE5NQ%3D%3D.2

#deadgame

#21

Rofl same here…

got bored and stopped playing after awhile