I was intending to make a build focused around Kneeling shot with full dex.
The build is really really successful. At lvl 80 I’ve been doing crits 90~99% of the time and each hit is doing 1k damage with my partner’s Zalciai buff (he’s full SPR build for this specific purpose). Without the buff my hits do around 700 per hit.
Build is working out really great.
I made a really poor class choice after getting c3 Archer. I went Ranger to take advantage of Steady Aim’s synergy with Kneeling shot and was intending to go c3 Ranger. However, today I found out that Quarrel Shooter’s running shot works with Kneeling shot! WHAT!? The name of the ability is “Running shot” and you would think it wouldn’t work with “Kneeling shot”. It’s so counter intuitive. Ofcourse Running shot is way better of a buff than Steady Aim.
Should I re-roll? It’s going to take so much time to lvl again
If I were you, I would. And if it’s any consolation, you’ll get there faster this time around. As for Running Shot, its name is hardly more misleading and counter intuitive than Swift Step.
also if u search for “machine gun AA” thats the term that ppl use for the build that uses kneeling shot and running shot (A1>QS3>A2> Whatever > Musketeer)
Edit: you would need low ping to use the machine gun AA build
@geffreyy you could go Fletcher2 then pick either f3, cannon or musket. if you reroll into a machine gun build, mind wanna consider getting strength over dex
F3 is like a jack of all trade but a master of none. We cant out dps a Wiz in AOE nor can we out dps Machine Gun AA in single target (even if a monster is stationary). I wish I had faster movement speed. Fletcher3 just don’t seem very fun to me. But thats my personal opinion.
Some may argue that Fletcher3 does a TON of dps but from what I’ve seen so far we don’t out dps Wiz in AOE nor do we out dps AA in single target dps.
Lv.80 is fairly early so re-rolling is your best option, and yeah Steady Aim is kinda meh at the moment. I read it got nerfed some time ago.
Also, you should be able to level up faster this time around since you’re already familiar with what you need to do, you have stuff (and companion if you already leveled one) from your 1st char, and considering it’s the same class.
Note: As @Agent said, you need low ping for the Rapid AA build to work, or you’ll be disappointed that it doesn’t work as expected.
You should probably re-roll. With your friend’s Zlaciai you dont need as much dex to land crit hits and since you are A3 you have 100% uptime on swift step (crit rate + evasion) and kneeling shot has a crit attibute as well BUT your build lacks power so i suggest you to invest into STR more for higher ATK (crits multiply your atk by 1.5) and crit Atk (adds after Atk calculation).
You may argue that Kneeling shot adds atk per Dex, but Dex doesnt have 10% scaling with ranks.
You may want to consider going Wugushi after A3: Wugushi’s poisons (except Zhengdu) scale with Atk - you poison enemies and then enter kneeling shot stance. If your friend intends to go Chaplain then QS’s running shot is better to take advantage of additional hits on autoattacks.
I didn’t know STR has 10% scaling. I’m guessing by that you mean instead of of the formula being:
1STR + Skill ATK + + Other sources of ATK = Skill Damage
or
1STR + Other sources of ATK = Auto Attack Damage
it is instead:
1.10STR + Skill ATK + Other sources of ATK = Skill Damage
or
1.10STR + Other sources of ATK = Auto Attack Damage
Assuming this is the case, for Kneeling shot(only) STR is still not as compelling as DEX. STR gives attack as well as crit attack, true, but the crit attack portion of it only applies if you are actually critting, and you won’t be critting as much as a full DEX build. If you have 500 STR that will give you an additional +50 ATK… That’s nothing late game. By comparison the difference between a crit a non crit even at my level without buffs is 100~200, this value will increase with higher levels and more base damage from gear and DEX.
After playing my full DEX Archer I came to the awareness that people have some misconceptions about crit chance. First of all I’ve heard the theory that crit has a cap of ~70%. I can tell you right now that absolutely false as I have crit 90~99% of the time. This part is atleast confirmed.
So why pump DEX even further if you are already critting almost 100% of the time you may ask. My impression is that your actual crit chance % against different mobs is not static, but is instead a function of your Crit Rate and the mob’s Crit Res. Higher level mobs have higher Crit Res than lower lvl mobs. Players you have more CON have more Crit res than players who have less CON (note: my character is not a PvP character obviously, just saying)
The 90~99% I quoted above is only achievable against same level mobs who all have an average of X Crit Res. Against higher level mobs who have higher crit res or against bosses who have way higher crit res my crit chance will be significantly lower. If I stop pumping DEX I won’t be “keeping up” with the increasing crit res of enemies and my crit chance will drop.
My Krivis friend has maybe ~30-50% crit chance against same level mobs with Zalciai debuff (which at this time gives -115 Crit res). He has 0 Dex and no Crit rate on gear, his crit rate is 3…
I’m trying to find any excuse to not re-roll as the thought of doing all those quests again makes my head spin. Furthermore, I have quite a few cash shop items on this character. So I think I will continue with this character. Steady Aim works on skills while Running shot doesn’t so I guess that can be some kind of lame justification.
Okay. This makes going STR a MUCH more compelling. However, I still have no regrets going full DEX and will continue to go it. Based on my calculations, damage will come out to be approximately even with STR build non-crit hit vs. DEX build crit hit.
Example:
Lets say you get 400 patk from weapon/gear (very conservative estimate)
Based on calculator full Str gives you 864 patk at rank 7.
Kneeling shot with attributes +100 approximately
400+864+100 = 1,364 non crit
(1,364 * 1.5) + 584 (Crit Attack) = 2,630
with crit it’s obviously a lot more.
With Full dex
400 (gear) + 291 (base) + 367 (Kneeling shot dex bonus) + 100 (Kneeling shot base) = 1,158 non crit
1,158 * 1.5 = 1,737 + Crit Attack (crit)
Ofcourse if the STR build crits the damage will be way greater, but I suspect it won’t crit frequently. The STR build can get high crit rate on gear to compensate. But, the DEX build can also get high Crit Attack. In the end counting gear I suspect the STR build will do better DPS.
Similarly with skills, because late game skills have high base damage, the damage might end up approximately the same for STR and DEX non-crit vs crit.
Sorry might have miscalculated some things I’m in a hurry. Might revise later and put additional thoughts.
Well if you want to use kneeling shot, then you definitely want running shot. In fact, running shot is the bread and butter skill for AA build, kneeling shot is just there to complement it and not the other way around.
So, if I were you, I would reroll asap. Level 80 is nothing.
