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Hunter + Rogue, looking for advise pls

Class and Rank Archer
#21

Backstab is not a primary damage move.
It’s damage is generally crap.
Now you can wield A karacha set in your second slot if you want but outside of that the damage is lacking. What it does do, is stun, providing you a potential RNG “get off me” that can also give you an advantage. The Muskateers Bayonet Thrust and Butt Stroke fulfill the same niche.

If you look at the Rogues Kit.
It’s all buff,debuffs and some Crowd Control.
Vendetta isn’t really a damage skill. It’s a party buff with an increasingly difficult requirement to trigger.

#22

What about move all the points of Vendetta in Feint ? because i don’t planned to up DEX so no accuracy, it should be help maybe ?

Hunter & QS = CC, Caltrops/Stone Shot/Retrieve/Coursing -> Sneak Hit -> Swift Step -> Feint -> Full Draw -> Backstab/Rapid Fire
Is it a good combo of CrowdControl/Buffs/Debuffs ?

#23

Rogue C3 or QS C3 in my build ? i just hit the QS C2 Lv14 but Rapid Fire and Stone shot don’t make a lot of damage .

#24

i have a archer>qs>hunter3>wugu2>mergen, your ideas are quite good but yes you would lack aoe, though wugu would provide some aoe, it is still not enough thats why i took mergen.

if you want to go musk, i suggest changing fletcher w/ scout so you can also pvp with it. cloak>snipe/ coarsing/rush dog/retrieve>butt stroke>any musk skill. i don’t suggest a str build if you go musk though

#25

Thank you for the help.
Do you have str and dex build?

#26

im using a dex build. I get poison damage from my weapon and hair accessories.

i have another wugu w/ str build. It has better and stable damage for poisons but its hard to crit when using other class skills

#27

How do you deal with mobs especially at R8 where they can knock you down or stagger you with rapid hits?

I always wanted to try an STR archer build, but the lack of evasion just make me doubt its effectiveness. Swordies at least have Pain Barrier while Clerics and Wizards have lots of ways to mitigate damage.

#28

my Str wugu is an ar3>wugu2>rogue3. I invested 70 stats on con and 60 on dex and the rest is str.

i have 2 sets of armor that I use, one is a plate set for defense and a leather set for evasion,

with my Leather set, I’m using the shade armors to boost my evasion and an over upgraded superior bandit boots. I wanted to place green gems but I used my gems elsewhere. Since i am a rogue3, i also invested in the evasion buff. at lv10 it increases my evasion by 100%, it doesn’t show on the stat screen but thats how i deal w/ kb/kd. and i can also burrow.

if my evasion and burrow is on cd. best thing to do is full draw/heavy shot or RUN, I already hit the enemy w/ poison anyway

#29

Oh, seems like a chore for me. XD Guess it’s really not my thing (or I’m probably just used to having P. Barrier).

#30

the route i took is a bit gimmicky so yeah, it might be a chore if you look at it but it does work. if i can stat reset though, i’d rather be investing in dex. Also will save me the trouble of getting werewolf cards

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#31

Are you saying that in the game’s current state, DEX + Kneeling is more efficient both in doing damage (as a Wugu) and surviving than STR even if you’re a Rogue as well?

#32

i don’t use kneeling though, its more practical to be mobile and safe.

as for my experience, i’d rather be investing in DEX. its one of the cheapest way to survive. it would boost your evasion and your crit rate (even though i’m a rogue if you dont have werewolf cards you can’t crit everytime since you have to position yourself, dex is the answer for this dilemma if you dont want to invest in werewolf cards)

you still have to balance things out with having good defense and a decent HP in the end. your damage, you can simply get it on your equipments

#33

Oh, I always thought that’s the reason for taking Archer C3.

Why did you take Archer C3 then (since C2 seems to have always been the sweet spot for almost any build)?

#34

because Archer C3 works well w/ Rogue’s burrow skill. i can use Multishot, Twin Shot, Heavy Shot, Oblique Shot. i took wugu as well to use the poison skills while burrowed

#35

Oh, didn’t know you can do a lot of things now while burrowed. Didn’t that skill used to be limited to what you can do?

Guess that explains the build for me now.

Is it possible to have your pet take aggro while you burrow and rotate through your skills? Burrow CD is kinda long though, even longer than most Wugu skills so maybe that would only work about half the time?

#36

not all skills work but those skills i mentioned does. for wugu, needle blow and wugong gu works. I regret not taking a scout so i can burrow safely if i pvp

yes, its possible for pet to take aggro but its quite risky. since you can still be hit while burrowed and the pet usually goes back to your location

edit:

the reason for getting dex is so i can crit and evade even while burrowed. you can’t buff while burrowed

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#37

Hello all,

Nice information about Wugushi, but i heard DEX on a Wugushi based Build is not Worth, Poison cannot Crit, isn’t it ?

By the way, i am ArcC1, QSC3, HuntC2, it work very well, PvE is a bit hard, i mean, it take time to down some mobs, spell from QS Tree are not so strong, but Rush Dog and Coursing make enough damage . If play correctly, Caltrops Lv15 make a lot of Damage also .

STR : 2 CON : 1 until now, i pick QSC3 than RogC3, i read somewhere that Backstab Lv5 is enough .

#38

Wugushi is at most 3/8 ranks you chose at the moment.