So… hows lancer damage compared to other R8 options ?
Thanks.
Compared to murm/goon2 its lower but still decent pvpwise. crush+quaint is on par with dethrone, joust deals 3 hits. i have both goon 2 and lancer.
Lancer is pretty damn strong, actually. Like ^ said, you fall short of goon and fencer, but considering the added utility, this is to be expected. its still enough to 1 shot people in pvp.
Only thing is, the range is nowhere near as good as dethrone, but the hitting power is about the same if you land Crush first.
lower than dragoon c2, but i found crush+quintain surprisingly strong, my quintain after crush can do 60k damage with 2 overheat and a relatively decent CD, joust seem like a burst skill that does a great burst damage
i’ve been able to solo everything on my sword 3cata 3 drag c1 lancer up to lvl 317 (my current lvl) with no problem.
goon c2 however IS stronger in pve content
Thanks for the feedback. What do you think of hop2>cata3>lancer ? I have a swords3cata3goon and Im finding the damage kind low even with high lvl attributes.
not a good idea imo for a pvp based build, gonna surely help for pve though.
I’m not sure what to say because i got a sword 3 cata 3 drag c1 lancer and i finish the damage very appealing, might be a stat thing? i have high dex.
Lancer is purely a pvp class, if you look for pve damage with a cataphract i’d get dragoon c2
it might be that you don’t recognize the combos, do you use crush+quintain? (crush before quintain is very important)
I’m not R8 yet, lvl 243 atm 200con 200dex the rest will go into str.
I know crush+quantain can be used during knockdown, maybe you can push it a bit and go spear lunge>crush>quantain Idk.
@edit: how much do you use your dragoon skills in PvP ?
pretty often, dragoon skills are used to proc restrain. Another damage to ur rotation
hoplite c2 is not for pvp content that’s for sure. restrain lvl 10 is better.
your damage is low might be because you have 200 con, you really don’t need that much, personally i have 120 con rest dex (about 320-330 dex)
Yeah I went too high con, btw how often do you get to use restrain ? It seems like PD got much more popular with R8 I can’t find any teams without 1~3 PDs. I personally went swrds3 for lvl 15 pain barrier.
I might remake my toon, I’m thinking on viable options to replace goon1 and maybe swrd3, any suggestions ?
i don’t think there are any better replacements atm honestly. not ones that worth a reroll.
sw3>cata3>cor1>lancer <----my build, i rank 20-50 on 2v2 tbl weekly
sw2>hop2>cata3>lancer
i wouldn’t do that for a pvp build honestly, lvl 10 restrain is better since hoplite is really more of a pve class (a good one)
the corsair build is good though makes sure to get 1 point into steed charge for hook synergy.
lvl 10 restrain synergizes ‘more’ on dragoon builds because of multihit, in a lancer setup with ‘less’ multihit skills, you’ll benefit more from finestra block bonus which could synergize with a lvl 15 iniate and spear lounge bonus. The real lose on an sw2 build is lesser pain barrier, where when you get chained kd = over.
Disagree, I used to have steed charge, I removed it because it’s a mediocre gap closer based on experience.
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the cata you have dueled is mostlikely the pve-ish variant sw1pelt1hop1cataxx or sw2hop1cataxx, which is very different from a sw2hop2cata3lancer…
I have seen your stat screenshot, it only has 243 base block penet and I highly doubt it could make it against a synergized block build (hop+lancer). I have 500 block penet and still gets blocked alot by lancer’s initiate alone with finestra block it’ll be more viable.
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Finestra block will work with two-handed spears ?
How’s lancer in PVE? compare with another swordman class?
Thank you so much… i already have one dragoon lv 254 but im thinking to make another one with Murmillo or Lancer. How about Murmillo?
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