Hows lancer damage?

[Kur0ir0_Rai]

rodelero 3 shinobi murmilo build? Do you mean SW 3 rodelero 3 shinobi murmilo build??

[DieHardLancer]

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[Kur0ir0_Rai]

thank you so much…

[matheuscrosara]

Razm how fast is the crush+quaintain combo ? Could you push a spear lunge in that combo in a PvP situation ?

Thanks.

[DieHardLancer]

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[matheuscrosara]

Thank you /2020202020

[Tanzen]

with initiate i was able to hit a pelt 3 squire 3 with 3k block. i can even shoot a video for you if you want initiate gives 75% block penetration chance.

let alone the fact that initiate and finestra alone are not enough to counter an enemy initiate.

We are talking about lancer here not a pelt 3 squire 3, please shoot a video against a lancer with lvl 5 initiate, I’m betting those blocks will pop out.

This is a fact, I TBL my lancer in rank 50 below 2v2 and I tell you my initiate+500 block penet still gets blocked by lancers with initiate.

our goal in pvp is to maximize performance against all classes, not just an enemy lancer.

Ehh, thats pretty much obvious, that’s basic 101.

[Tanzen]

let alone the fact that initiate and finestra alone are not enough to counter an enemy initiate.

It’s not a fact, heres a pair of video to disprove your statement.

The point that i’m trying to make is - block is not a big scary thing anymore.
Imc designed lancer to naturally be able to penetrate block without str.

Again, WRONG. We both have decent STR and yet still get blocked by each other.

[infos]
Tanzen: 498 block penetration + 30% from cataphract passive
KuroAkaShiro: 623 block penetration
both sides have used [initiate]

Part 1
https://youtu.be/zVVKF5kRVJ8

Part 2
https://youtu.be/_AshIbdchP8

[BlackCat]

hmm weird but may I ask if initiate actually gives you a block stat. if not then adding STR may not matter at all. since it will be a static % chance to get blocked and ignores block penetration. (which is the same case with fencer preparation)

[DieHardLancer]

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[Tanzen]

with initiate i was able to hit a pelt 3 squire 3 with 3k block. initiate gives 75% block penetration chance.

let alone the fact that initiate and finestra alone are not enough to counter an enemy initiate.

exactly my point, initiate mechanics are simply that you get blocked.

You just contradicted yourself bud. Your Initial point was initiate+finestra (block chance) is not enough to counter enemy initiate (block penet).

[DieHardLancer]

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[matheuscrosara]

I’m very curious about initiate block chance and weather it can be improved by block rate/finestra.

Is there a way you could test this for me ?

Thank you.

[Tanzen]

I’m very curious about initiate block chance and weather it can be improved by block rate/finestra.

Is there a way you could test this for me ?

Right now, the “block feature” of initiate is still a mystery no one knows if its flat or whatnot but it should logically stack with your block.

Though, we can test if it is indeed flat by using test subjects like full STR and full DEX players, with constant variables such as same build, same gear.