I think the biggest thing for me atm though is my recent transition to cloth armor, as archers we are so used to using either leather or plate. This new SP total in combination with my sp cards, and the massive reduction in piercing and magic damage has been fantastic, impressive enough for me to sell my entire 4pc Manahas Set without worry.
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You really only see the SR capstone in ktos, it does however take additional time to gather the large groups for circling but the trade-off is the resources you save over using X amount of split arrows instead, with our bounce being limited to 2, and really 1 half the time due to its perma bugged target priorty system circling is a god send. it was hardly my idea, I saw the ktos players using this before ITOS got rank 8 and rerolled this variant.
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I actually do play sapper indept with a cannoner but i am too lazy. Sticking to my musket/swordies side @_@
Anyway archers are famous for farming dungeons/runs to the point it turn into a scout haven 
Yes, SR is not the best option, but due to now i almost never use the falcon skill, at least with SR you have the ms, hp, and def bonus (i think i wouldnāt use any sr skill, but the bonus will be there). In my point of view there is no a excellent option to take a R7.
Oh you went cloth,
P.S i went virtov cloth too to tried out the reduction of magic damage.
Itās pretty decent if you are willing to push your mdef with nualee card for general questing magic mobs can deal only 1damage (I had around nearly 1.5k mdef (tried playing with nualee cards) > after 10% enchant around 1.7k
Either way. Stacking yellow gems for pdef + cloth works too + blue on boots. Assuming you are pushing defensive numbers. ( with virtov plate i can survive spiral arrows. they hit me only 1 with 1.4 k def base (get aspersion and you have 2.1k def)
Greens on boots are useless for general archers when we are all dex now anywayā¦
Ya it got to the point where I felt like I was dodging 80% either way so why not make the trade and cut down the piercing damage, we can avoid the majority of melee damage, but the archers in rank 8 are just too OP, that and as an scout I can actually use the absurd amount of SP for my card procs.
Well with how they cut down transcend shards on armorsā¦
IMC direction atm is wanting us to aquire Virtov/Lolo (solmiki is abit harsh atm).
Then transcend them + throwing defensive gems instead of HP to hit specific decent defense stats.
Since HP is just a value or huge pool buffer.
- the incoming appraiser that unlock more gem slots.
Transcending armor gives HP + defensesā¦ so logically stacking defenses ( with a 1-2 red gems for hp buffer)ā¦
All mobs will hit you one like the murilo that literally tanks in mob mass in KTOS videos of solmiki 1 dmg even boss hits ā¦
Evasion is pretty much icing on the cake to mitigate physical damage
after ādivingā in the forum for so long, this is my first time posting because i really like your idea on cloth mastery coupled with sp regen card.
just to share my experience on scout3, not main char. firstly, thank you for everyone who share their experience on scout3. abit of introduction, i am doing same build as jchsc32, currently falc1 at rank7.
as i level my char by questing so i had a bit of fund for him. once i reached scout3, i bought a maga bow +0, +3stats rings (1 from quest, 1 from main char), +10dex necklace (quest), red veris glove (farmed), rokas armor (quest), whatever leather pants and shoes, and split arrow attribute about 20%. Of course with some sponsor from main char (less than 1m). invested stats are 30str, 30con and rest dex.
i went into 145 at r6 circle1, it was disastrous. sacrament bought from pardoner left less than 30min after 1 run. i spent 1 week plus to farm like this, got the attribute to 50%, got patk headgear 3 pieces (before update, all less than 1m each as not maxed patk, total around 100patk), got my bow to +5. and then one run became around 40min (pardoner sacrament expired near the last boss of 2nd run). and i read about sp regen cards here and as I spent about 100k for hp n sp pots for 3 runs at that time, so i got myself a darkness sp regen card. i felt regret to use my other chars junk cards to level this card at THAT moment.
with the farmed silver, i got my bow to +7 (failed twice at +7 to +8 zzzzzz), attribute to 60%, repay the sponsored silver to my main char. then with the patch of headgear stats, my run shorten to around 30min. my scout3 is now 230 and has been sponsoring my main by 145 farming. but now i need to invest on scout3 to change to cloth type armor and get the other sp regen cards for more efficient farming.
below are my opinions on the hot issues currently on scout3,
even though scout3 are farmers, it does not mean no investment needed. we chinese have this saying, åč¦é©¬åæč·ļ¼åč¦é©¬åæäøåč You canāt expect the horse to run fast when you donāt let it graze. unless one seeks no improvement, one invests until one satisfies with its performance. and i am not sure how zero invested scout3 can do 145 in 20min. If people are interested just to make scout3, stay at r6 to farm 145 or just reached r6 wanted to farm 145, please do not take these guides/videos in the forum as reference. you will disappoint greatly as most of them are already r7 or r8, they have higher stats, better weapon, transcendence and more skill combinations. They can run 145 in less than 20min, where I do not think a lv17x scout3 can achieve with just 170 weapon and split arrow.
regarding lv1 or lv5 split arrow, sp usage wise if at the end a lv1 cant kill the mob u will need 2 lv1 to kill, which is roughly equivalent to 1 lv5, unless you can 1hit mobs with lv1 split arrow, but at that time I do not think the sp pots will be a problem. so i think this is just personal preference. Iām at lv5 tho, reason: slightly OCD.
regarding r7 job, falc really does not help much in farming 145 at r7. for me, with the magic mobs and archers, it is difficult to charge multishot. i seldom use circling. However, seeing the video above, falc + mergen can save a lot of time in 145. so imma slowly going up to mergen.
pet (not falcon) are good to have in 145. at the moment i see Ice Bolt on mobs head, i run behind my pet and save a hp pot and a dispeller. twinshot is good for lone mob.
hope this helps other players who are interested to make farmer scout3. and thank you again for all that share your experience and keep sharing your experience to benefit us. and sorry for anything wrong in my post.
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Yes as to the point on circling at rank 7 being useless in the 145 dungeon it absolutely is b/c multi shot will get interrupted nearly every time, however stay the course b/c homing arrow with circling is an nuclear bomb, furthermore circling also works with triple arrow, so its a pretty easy decision atm if you plan on going mergen.
Budget wise, I will be the 1st to admit that you can get by without all the fancy bells and whistles if you are simply using a scout, or multiple scout alts to farm an instanced dungeon daily. That being said though, ToS is a very very low populated game, the amount of time you will spend solo is high and scouts are fantastic in solo content, I have even solod quests like āpowerfull beingā the final megaboss fight with demon queen gesti for the Tevhrin Caves quest finale on my scout.
well i kind of agreeā¦what the purpose to create farmer char when u need tons of miliion and investmentā¦u spend several million, leveling card if u dont want to buyā¦if u just want create farmer char and stick at 145 dg and stop at rank 6ā¦it just a waste of silver to investā¦unless if u playing scout3 and target for rank 8ā¦coz even qs3 at rank 8 with decent weapon damage can solo 145 within 20m by using single targetā¦and dont get me wrong, scout3 is great but to invest million and stop at rank 6 just to spam 145 is not goodā¦and if u not invest any u will take long timeā¦30-40mā¦u just get bored doing daily if it take more than 1 hour to finishā¦and this video showing this OP have high damage 315 weapon which the highest damage bow at ToS nowā¦u cant get those damage in r6 weaponā¦if u wanna take scout3 path for farmerā¦be a scout 3 and hit rank 8 and your life will be easy.
Theres a separate budget post by a different author for the bare minimum needed to make alt daily dungeon whoring scouts, thatās not really the intent here.
Hi jchsc32, may i know your for the first R1-3 Archer skills how u distribute? I left TOS for 6 month now looking for back. Thank you.
same path as u dude
a3- scout 3- falc- mergen.
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Wb, the archer skills are pretty universal;
15 swiftstep 15 multishot 9 full draw and 1 heavy shot 5 twin arrows
if you donāt ever pvp can do 10 full draw and 0 heavy shot, thatās what I run b/c I wont touch pvp in an client side game where 8/10 people can cheat openly
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Thanks for sharing ,glad to see another scout3 enjoying his toon 
And yes you are correct if you want to be more effective then you need to invest.
Thank you, I never pvp. How many days take u to rank6 from new character. I have ex +6 khasti bow with 2 lv5 green gem can utilize until what level and whats next weapon i should use, have no idea what weapon going on for leaving.
Currently the BiS bow is the Augfowle, however you can collect the bulk of the materials for the next BiS bow, the Astra Bow but it will be extremely difficult, it will easily be an 1%'r item for quite some time. The materials are;
x18 undamaged mourningbird wings (yudejan forest - in 1,200 kills I got x12)
x54 yellow caro antennas (pystis forest - dpk of over 500 EACH)
x2 practonium
x15 artilinioum (can be obtained in the 290 dungeon)
For the average player id recommend the purple 315 bow for now, the Astra Bow will be a very slow and challenging grind, and you do not want to be doing all of the rank 8 content with a lv170-220 bow.
(scouts benefit the most from red gems on our bows due to split arrows mechanics/bounce damage etc)
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After tonight you wont see me on the forums though, I get tunnel vision when I play a game, only focusing on that 1 specific game and forum, omw back to FFXIV once the massive download is done, havenāt played there for about a year, basically since ToS beta and founderās so I wont see any new questions.
Skim down to the bottom of the Idreamy Scout thread to see my summary of scouts though, tried to leave a helpful collection of info for the past and future to help people.
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Thats sounds like a months for me a 3-4 hours daily player 
before i can go rank7-8. For the augfowie bow recipe, it drop from which dungeon cube? i have 2 unit red gem lv5, how to leveling gem the cost effective way despite from junk?
for the attribute how i should invest? Currently have around 3M and 600 talts. Should i sell all the talts or it still a ācurrencyā for trading? Sorry a lot noob question after lft so long. 
1 split arrow attribute (50-60 for alts solely rolled to farm a dungeon, 80 if you intend on playing it regularly)
2 monster cards (determine which dungeon you will farm every day and setup sp return cards accordingly, scouts typicaly use any remaining cards slot for +DEX cards)
3 gear
you can quickly see ToS is speeding up the gear treadmill in an frantic effort to keep the few players they have left busy, this is pretty common in mmos - with this being the case I strongly recommend investing the bulk of your silver into attributes, they will never need to be replaced
(gems, tier6 is optimal, they are easy/cheap to make, 1.8mil on average and offer decent stats, tier5 is garbage and not worth using unless its temporary 170 or lower gear)
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