Obviously a lot of you here has not actually played the damn class and is pulling info out of their ass. And I declare the statement; varuna is a retard. Talking about Lolopanther when no one even has one, nor is it even a feasible option. Also not even showing one screenshot of what they play.
I’ll answer for the thread maker because I’m Swordsman 1> Peltasta 1> Barbarian 3> Doppel 2, which is what they want to go too. Don’t even bring up other classes because it’s off-topic.
1080 damage, and 3 dodges. 2k HP left.
I had well over 50% crit with that Cyclone at that crit rate.
I went in that mob will full HP. If I had no DEX, I would’ve died.
First offs first. Going full STR is outright stupid. You’ll know when you’re Lv 220+. Just take a look at the screenshots; mobs do 1k each hit and have over 100k HP. I was at full HP before I used Deeds, and just to get 10 stacks I’m basically dead. If you went full STR, you’d be dead before you even used Cyclone because you can’t dodge. If you wanted maximum DPS, sure go full STR. Just be prepared you are USELESS everywhere in this stage of the game because you die in 3 seconds of mobbing. Going 100 CON will do what? Like the screenshot shows, you probably lose half your HP just stacking 10 stacks. Now you just lost 100 points into something that could have been more useful. Then what? After Deeds runs out you stack another 10? Will potions keep up? No, they won’t. Even heavy CON Squire Templars with 40k+ HP run around this place on the verge of dying, and I survive better than them with 17k HP and a lot of evasion. This is because even the healer can’t keep up with the amount of damage they take running no evasion.
I declare, you can’t solo. Unless you’re a total masochist, don’t do it. You need a healer and you’ll be in a party. You don’t want to CON. That’s just how the game works at this stage. The only time you would want it is for dungeon bosses that do 10k+ damage to you, PVP, and no where else.
Swordsman 1> Peltasta 1> Barbarian 3> Doppel 2 is what I’m running. Anyone who runs this build knows for a fact Crit Attack is useless because you have no multi hit skills where Crit Attack is really even useful. At the attack in the screenshot above, I auto-attack for 5k crits but it STILL takes me over 8 seconds to skill a mob in Evac. A measly 500 crit attack is not going to make a difference when they have 100k HP and you take that long while your valuable buff duration is running out. WIthout buffs, you barely do 2k. Have fun hitting a mob 50 times for it to die. You could probably do 7k crits at full STR if you could crit. But what’s the point of crit attack if you have no DEX to crit in the first place??? Get a bunch of green gems? You are still missing the evasion. Once again, while you’re auto-attacking mobs, with no evasion you’ll die before you kill the mob. Same with Cyclone; you’ll be in the middle of 5 mobs hitting you for 1k damage each with 100% accuracy. Then you have to sit down with a bonfire to recover it all while your buffs run out. This is not a practical play style. Your damage running this build comes ALL from skills. NO ONE auto-attacks at 220+. You will never see it unless it’s a boss.
Cleave is a one-hit skill. Seism is a one-hit skill. Helm Chopper is two hits. Crit attack does jack in proportion to the damage they already do if you crit with them. Probably a bonus 1.5k damage after multipliers if you COULD crit with a heavy STR build in the first place. Still nothing to a 100k HP mob. My attack with no buffs is 883-1100 and 2776-2993 with full buffs + 183 crit atk… If I was full STR it would maybe be like 1305-1522 with ~600 Crit Atk. Add in full attack buffs and it would be around 3810-4027 with essentialy no crit. 2776 atk x 1.5 crit = 4164 which already supasses this value. Sure, the crit rate isn’t 100%, but it’s pretty high and the high evasion is way more valuable.
However, this doesn’t last. The buff duration is just too low for you to make use of it in the first place. Cyclone isn’t even a reliable option in the first place with 55 second cooldown which is longer than the duration of Frenzy and Warcry. (Anyone who says the cooldown is 45 seconds obviously isn’t Doppel)
You are better off unloading all your skills and then waiting for your party to finish them off than auto-attacking. The real problem for this class is the cooldown time. It’s just more worthwhile to increase your chance of crit rather than doing increasing damage with this class; the 1.5x damage outweights a more STR heavy build anyday. The evasion saves you from face-planting.
Of course I’m not saying go full DEX; which is what I’m not. You’ll realize that Crit Rate will only do so much once you get to a certain amount. Yes, STR is important for Doppel because suddenly with Deeds, the effectiveness is doubled at 10 stacks, but once again, 10 stacks in itself is not practical without a healer nor will you really even achieve 10 stacks at a time where you want it.
Your DPS is still garbage compared to wizard and archers. This has already been discussed in just about every nook and cranny in this forum so I won’t even go there. You just have to accept it. Even spear classes do more damage than this class. Mainly because of how the element properties in this game works. Most mobs in the areas after level 220 are leather. Spears have a 50% damage bonus to this, so any dragoon will almost always be more reliable in dealing damage. Plate mobs too, barb/doppel with practically every skill being slash suffer a damage penalty while spear pierce still does 100% damage.
All in all, you will be in a party. Trying to level solo as opposed to with a party is just miserable with this class and not worth it. This is no different with any other class.
