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How much crit rate is considered enough at Lv 280?

it is easier than completing any of the virtov set recipes

I mean, arguably? I mean the virtov recipes already require a chance of luck to get the right ones as it is, so I’ll admit that, but the mats, while not quick or easy to farm, are at least, farmable. There’s a reason why battle bracelets are selling for 5-7 mil these days, good luck getting one from a Galok drop between the reduced channels, reduced spawn and the bots. I’ve gotten one by pure chance when I was leveling an alt. I’d rather farm lepusbunny for bandit glove recipes than for battle bracelet, because I know I’ll get 8 to drop eventually. I honestly think I could login every day for two hours and do nothing but run around tenent church for a couple of weeks and not see a single bracelet drop.

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Full dex is retarded. You want a nice balance of dmg and crit :/.

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And Block Penetration.
Especially vs those hogma mobs of earthtower. Their block is very high.

do we have calculations for Block pen, Hit rate??

and also, i was wondering which comes first? Block pen / Hit rate / Crit rate??

because i do have a high-STR SR, but still these hogma blocks like crazy.

i even watched the KR guy who plays SR2 and he, also have a hard time dealing with those Hogma’s at ET.

Edit 1:

This is currently my Stat on SR.

Stat invested are : STR169 CON30 110DEX

I know first is Dodge.
Then Block.

Crit chance = (Crit Rate - target Crit resistance) * (0.15) at level 280.

Dodge rate =
(Dodge rateEnemy- AccuracyYOU) /
((0.35~0.36*PlayerLVL + 19) * MonsterLVL^0.34))

Do you have A2 in your build?

is it safe to assume that Block rate overrides eva/hit and crit rate?

or in a consecutive manner, block comes first??

  1. if enemy blocks > blocked (hit rate / crit rate will not be calculated)

  2. if > enemy doesn’t block > calculate crit rate > crit damage (ignores EVA/HIT)

  3. if enemy doesn’t block > calculate crit rate > doesn’t crit > calculate hit rate > hit or miss attacks on enemy

number 2 and number 3 can be change if hitrate comes first before crit rate. i hope someone can confirm this.

No i didn’t went A2, i swapped it for Rogue C1, A1>R3>Rg1>SR2.

I believe EVA is first, then block.
Dodge -> block -> crit.

You need to farm werewolf card then.

given the idea, if;

crit = 100% chance, block is nullified?

i hope someone with 100% crit chance can provide us with this :smiley: this will be a big discovery, since i’ve never seen someone provide this scenario whether block pen > Crit, or Crit > block pen.

Nicola has 100% crit.
However she has high STR, and high block pen.

Perhaps she can find a full CON warrior with AIAs, and holding C guarding to test, but her crit won’t be 100% vs full CON & Aias.
Or she may just slaughter Nukella.

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full cons warrior lv 10 high guard lv 15 guardian but no aias lv 280. Want me to test it on him?

High CON increases his critical resistance, so you won’t have 100% crit chance.
It would be a nice test though, if you could spare some magic arrows (or multishot 10), and count the amount of crits per X hits.

sure thing I will record a vid too if you want.

Sure, if you don’t mind/ don’t mind fps lag.
You could Alt+A to remove interface, and alt+a after test again.

yes please :D, if we can prove, or provide information that Crit rate 100% can bypass block, the issue left will be achieving 100% crit rate against a full-con +aias player (in pvp), i think its most likely to achieve 100% crit rate in PvE.

It’s very easy with A2 :stuck_out_tongue: not even need to go full DEX.

So I did a test with MA and LV 10 Mult Shot
Here are the vids (sorry I didn’t know it records audio x.x). I was at 676 crit rate during the test.
MA:
https://vid.me/SvG5
Mult-Shot:
https://vid.me/fYKK

I cried a little :confused:

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i actually like it, that you can really make a solid tank :smiley:

I mean, scout-archer are the hard counter to any cc wizzy, why should they also be the boss in killing those tanks :smiley: