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How long will Telsiai server be exclusive for Early Access?

Like many other people playing the game, I have some friends who were waiting for F2P to come and have me guide them through the game as someone who is experienced and high levelled.

But with the Telsiai server effectively becoming a locked for EA “temporarily”, my friends’ plan is in ruins and it is quite saddening.

With this at hand, I would like to ask IMC a specific duration in days/weeks/months on how long will the server be exclusively Early access.

@STAFF_Ines @STAFF_John

Since you are going to play with your friends, I’m assuming you are going to create a new character right? If that’s the case, and you are starting over, why not do it in the new server?

The character that I’m going to be using with them is a level 66 Sapper and I have no intention to use a new character right now simply to make it faster.

Also, what on earth, you telling me to ditch all my founder’s pack TP, items, and character progress just to play on the F2P server? You nuts?

Well, since they are your so-called real life “friends”, lend them money and ask them to get the cheapest founders pack.

You want to play with them? Get them the founders pack and you’ll not only make yourself happy, but you are also contributing to IMC. It’s a win-win situation really.

Don’t stress yourself over this.

Telsiai will be “opened” back when it can handle alot of new players. And to do this, IMC will need to upgrade it. However, I believe that IMC will open more servers instead of upgrading one because poor quality game client cannot handle so many players at once and causes 1 FPS LoL

Easier said than done. If you’re just here to scold someone just to get full of yourself then you’re just wasting your time. Please do read properly the topic title and post next time. You will be ignored from now on.

Well I guess that does make sense it is however, bearable to some extent. I doubt the optimization will be handled anytime soon but we should at least get the server upgrade ASAP.

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There will be NO SERVER upgrades coming. If you know how these things work, the only solution for Telsiai to be stable is stop new players and create a new server- which is what IMC is doing. The server reached its limits and upgrading it would be pointless.

If you are asking when will Telsiai going to be open again to new players, it could take weeks or months. When IMC believes that there will be no surge of new players coming, they will open it. But for now, say goodbye to your real life friends who wants to play with you next week.

I told you, just gift your friends the founders pack. The cheapest founders pack is so cheap, I don’t get why your friends can’t simply purchase it. Assuming they go to starbucks or any fastfood chain restaurants and spend $5-10 a month, I don’t see why they’re having difficulty in giving IMC the money they deserve.

i want to make an “exclusive access” joke here, but it would probably be too long and not funny.
and i doubt you’d get it.

meanwhile, Telsiai will be “locked” until the issue is resolved. there is no possible way to predict how long that will be.

yes ditch it all. and that’s hardly “nuts”.
do you want to play -with- them? or just babysit them?

you’re missing the point that was being made. there are no upgrades that can fix the situation.

because your head is stuck up your… anyway. not all countries are america. the equivalent of $15 USD (for the cheapest DLC pack) is 2 months of food in some places.

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Welp no real harm in trying to ask them for something
I mean, we are customers afterall and we deserve a service worthy of our attention and investment

But right now from the looks of it, it’s trying to instigate some sense of separation from good ol’ friends and forcing one to practically play with other people who may have the potential to ruin a match for you (yes I’m talking about you Dungeon/Mission queues)

We didn’t ask for this and I don’t think it’s justifiable at all.

yes you did.

everyone all crammed onto the same server, and now it’s full. if you keep trying to add more people to it, eventually the server is going to crash
…and then people will lose levels, items, maybe even entire characters…

it’s like a hotel. there’s only so many rooms to put more people in, before the hotel is full. and once it’s full, they turn on the “No Vacancy” sign.

mind you, i feel like this is going to be the situation of -every- server, by the end of the first week of f2p: completely overloaded.

We didn’t ask for separation at all
In fact, IMC didn’t even anticipate the surge of population and is always looking at best possible scenarios without even a reliable backup plan for the worst

Furthermore, they seemed to have only tested their game on a system that is mainly using an i-7 6900K which is the 4th in the rankings in terms of single threaded performance and this ended up with the client performing poorly on owerful rigs that are reliant on GPU power and multi-core processing.

How can you call that justifiable?

Well there’s always a way
Population will throttle down sooner in time

IDK how IMC is even handling their databases
Yeah there’s a whole lot load of data but not being able to migrate on a vice versa route smells fishy to me (I’ve worked on databases so I know concepts about it)
i.e Only people from Klaipeda and Orsha are able to transfer to SA server and people who have been playing at Telsiai and Fedimian all this time are disallowed from it.

There’s too much injustice in this scenario
I mean yeah you can say that they were pressured by the people asking for release date and the whatnot but that doesn’t mean they have to listen to them if they truly think they are not ready for it.

What people needed was just an update on their progress just like old times on their blog and not a definite release schedule.

what’s that got to do with anything?
i never asked for this game to happen in the first place, and yet wonderfully, here it is.

there are too many players on the server. they cannot add more, or the server will start to break.

how do you know what they’ve tested their game on?
“system requirements” is determined by running the game on a variety of systems, and picking a performance level that is adequate to run the game (minimum) and a level that runs the game quite well (recommended.)

“can not” and “will not” are not the same thing.
people got free transfers because they were -supposed- to be moving to a region that was better for them, on servers that were not available when they started to play. why in hell would someone who lives in the SEA or EU region want to play on the SA server?

there’s no injustice here. they’re just not allowing people to make “stupid” transfers, because then they’ll get flooded with tickets saying “put me back! this is way worse!”

Too bad for you there are actually non-SEA people who played in there and wanted to move to the SA server because apparently transparency of information is not so reliable for those who don’t stalk the forums or steam news

Some people who has CPU on the top ranks of single threaded performance were totally not experiencing said frame problems so technically this means that IMC’s QA and testing group are not doing their job pretty well by claiming something to be optimized on a system that is as powerful as that

Besides, if you are testing a game and it lags alot with spikes here, there and whatnot, would you claim that the game is optimized and refined already? If someone does that, then they ain’t doing their job properly.

yea, i’ve dealt with this before. “i’m SA. hm, SEA? that sounds close enough.”
ignorance and lack of research earns nothing from me. i don’t care if it was even their very first mmo and they didn’t know better, that’s too bad, you’ll know better in the future. and if it WASN’T their first mmo, then they simply deserve endless mockery for being deliberately ignorant.

where have they done this?

minimum specs: massive CPU, and decade-old graphics card. (yes literally a decade, because i bought my geforce 8800 a decade ago.)
recommended specs: even MORE massive CPU, and still several-year-old graphics card. (again, this is also a card that i bought a couple of years ago… in the discount section.)

using such immense CPU power and such light GFX power suggests to me that the game simply is not highly-optimized and they are well aware of it. and yet, that isn’t really a priority for them; they’re working on other things.

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You call Intel Pentium Core 2 a massive CPU on the Minimum Requirements? Are you even sure you know your hardware?

As for the recommended part, Sure i5 is massive but WHICH i5?? There are more than just 1 generation of i5 out there and only they know which i5 it really is that they tested with it. Having such vague information on that part totally tells how mediocre of a job they are doing by relentlessly giving out general information where a more specific type of information is needed on this part

You seem to be just here to deface the topic while I’m here asking IMC a proper question, I wouldn’t really care what sort of answer they give me as long as it’s an honest one because I do know that they are on a ditch but I do also know that it wouldn’t hurt to ask.

huh, i sure don’t. it was a MUCH more powerful cpu last time i checked.
yours is out of date, too (tho not as badly as my info): the current “recommended” CPU is an i3, not an i5
so apparently it “runs ok” with some pretty light hardware… and simply can’t effectively use more powerful stuff.
…which actually wouldn’t surprise me much, considering the engine was made 10y ago. there simply wasn’t the same level of hardware to optimize it on.

as for “on topic”, i already said…

tho, more recently, i have gone around looking up how long people stay in an mmo… according to what i found… f2p mmo’s shed customers pretty fast.
of players that joined in the launch month… only ~20% of them hang around for a month, and it loses roughly half again by the end of the 3rd month. (barely more than 6% last the year.)

so depending on what kind of “rush” we see from the f2p launch, i would estimate somewhere from a couple of weeks, to maybe a month.

Why not get them to buy one of the packs before F2P launch so they can get on o-o

yeeees, this is a great plan. everyone should buy the DLC and get on telsiai, which is already overcrowded… thus making the problem worse.

i mean, nothing is stopping people from doing it (aside from their wallets)… but the more people that join, the worse the server performance will be.

Well, i mean he doesn’t really have any other option if he wants to play with his friends in the immediate short term

OP Has a problem, this fixes OP’s problem is it good for the server? maybe not, will a few more people hurt? maybe, do i believe The snowball effect is a fallacy in this case yes

i don’t believe telsilai will be overpopulated for too long, pop will drop soon enough as this game finds its niche audience

fyi, 1Percent, is a well-known scammer in SEA-Telsiai. Beware!