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How good is Corsair's Jolly Roger?

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#85

I can’t believe I missed this topic for so long. Jolly Roger expert here, I made my C3 Corsair just to farm with JR and have no regrets even though I’ve yet to loot a single boss cube, even when soloing world bosses strictly with Double Weapon Assault. Feels bad man.

I’m up to 1666 candle spider kills and 6 Venier recipes now.

Farmed enough honeymeli stingers to pay for my Manamana recipe + the 26 to craft the Manamana in a day. Average 25-30 honeymelis per hour.

Normal gems loot very frequently as well, but unfortunately they always drop as level 1 even on maps where level 2+ gems normally drop.

You can only loot the same enemy once. I’m 99.9% certain of this after someone asked me and I started paying closer attention to my pillage rolls.

Jolly Roger silver is 30% of the mob’s normal silver drop. Since dungeon mobs are pretty tanky and (mostly) don’t drop items, that’s a pretty substantial boost if you do solo clears.

Looting non-material items is pretty hit and miss in my experience. I’ve looted plenty of Veniers, tons of purple recipes in Roxona, a monster orb and 2 monster gems. However, often I’ve found that there are recipes you can’t seem to loot, even just common ones that drop every ~100 kills otherwise. I suspect, though I have no hard evidence, that it has to do with the DPK system, because JR seems to use true RNG in determining loot - so possibly new items that are added since DPK was implemented with no defined droprate won’t drop from JR. I’m basing this on the fact that all items that existed in beta seem to be lootable as well as new materials - since materials don’t use DPK - but not new recipes. If so this is a huge oversight from IMC.

Anyway, JR is pretty good. But if I’m correct about drop %s not existing for new items, it will be way less good moving forward unless IMC fixes it; but considering you still can’t use Double Weapon Assault with a pistol I think it’s safe to say IMC has forgotten Corsair exists. Seriously what other class gets access to a weapon that makes its own skills not work?

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#86

SlyGoat
I have questions to ask you

  1. Have Additon Property Damage from Carfisun, Sacrament, Enhance Fire, Last Rite triggered JR loot proc like normal, skill attack?
    (and if you use DWA Addition Damage will double hit like from 4hit to 8 hit per attack?)

  2. As you mention “You can only loot the same enemy once” so if you already loot silver you won’t loot any silver and item from JR right?

  3. Since you can only loot once from monster
    then will Corsair C2 for lv10 JR enough for farming rare material purpose?
    (Is it still loot from JR for every monster you kill if monster hp isn’t very low?)

  4. In your opion, Is Corsair C2-3 best for farming, hunt rare material compare to Cata3 or Sr2? (don’t count afker like some sor, necro)

Thank you very much ! :smiley:

#87

1.) Yes as far as I’ve notice, each hit of multi hit skills can proc JR’s pillage.
3.) Corsair3 is still viable if your intentions are just to farm, higher JR levels still increases it’s proc rate so 15>10 in any day, people will hate you in pvp too if took Hook.
4.) see 3^

Currently its the only bypass to get some loots easier(somehow) from the DPK system.

@SlyGoat I’ve net some exp cards and gold anvils in 130dg a couple of times with my JR, you think Battle Bracelet can be pulled from Galoks in 50dg?

#88

I have to admit, I will possibly be taking my flag to lvl 15 from level 2 soon, even though previously I was the one who stated it wasn’t really good.

Why? Two reasons.

  1. Dust Devil (lvl 13) don’t seem to do any considerable damage in Hop2-Cor3 build unless the mob is cloth-type and it’s CC is not that good as well, so I don’t really see a reason to leave it on my hotbar, considering that c8 is going to add even more buttons and I’ll certainly have to get rid of smth. It haven’t been a problem before, but it is a problem now.

  2. I recently looted a Werewolf boss card in a mission with JR proc. Considering how rare are those cards now, I simply can’t pass on such opportunity.

Still, if I had space for Dust Devil, I would’ve probably left JR at lvl 2.

#89

You do less damage because DWA ignores main hand weapon. You hit twice but hit weaker. It’s good to proc Pillage.

I’m not him but AFAIK only golden anvils and exp cards drop in instanced dungeons (and some new items like “broken anti-cold bracelet” which drops only in them). [quote=“sttr413, post:88, topic:215644”]
I recently looted a Werewolf boss card in a mission with JR proc. Considering how rare are those cards now, I simply can’t pass on such opportunity.
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You also get to farm some mats if you don’t kill those totems fast in Crystal Mine Mission.[quote=“sttr413, post:88, topic:215644”]
Still, if I had space for Dust Devil, I would’ve probably left JR at lvl 2.
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I felt a huge difference from JR 5 to 10. From @SlyGoat comment, I assume there’s another substantial difference from 10 to 15. I have DD at 1 only for locking mobs before I pull my combo. Worthless damage even with Cleave IMO.

#90

Just stole a cube from Fire Lord at 190 dg. It didn’t come to my inventory though.

#91

Sad story bro. Dropped like 4 cubes on WBs and all went to ppl around me, never to me =( It can even go to a person outside party! Free cubes for competition, yay.

“You know what? Treasures for everyone! But mostly - to (not) me, haha!”

#92

That is super weird.

Correct, I’ve never seen a silver drop and an item drop from the same mob.

Even with JR15 I sometimes kill 80k+ HP mobs before looting them. Against lower health mobs you’ll have a much better loot rate with JR15. Plus, you can loot bosses at a very, very low rate, so JR15 gives you a better chance of getting extra cubes or boss cards.

JR probably scales linearly, meaning from 1 to 5 is a 400% increase in lootrate, from 5 to 10 is a 100% increase and from 10 to 15 is a 50% increase.

#93

It went to my guildmate who was in another party, so I’m quite sure.

#94

Then what is better? keeping just 2 points in the flag or steal points off dust devil? I have invested 5 points in dust devil ( but i have the skill reset potion from the event).
What do you recommend guys? How many skill points are worth in dust devil and how many in the JR ?
I’m not focusing at all in pve, but i found ( now that i have tested it) that dust devil will be useless, but i also don’t see a lot of pillage from flag, and i don’t know if more points will really improve it.

#95

Then you just need JR for the attribute. I don’t use DD in PvP.

If you need money, go with JR. If you want some more damage, go with DD. I choose money, since I can save a lot farming the stuff I need and any “surplus” can be spent on skills.

#96

Like the others have said, you only need 1 point for DD. I tried lv10 it was meh. JR is definitely worth maxing.

#97

Like you i don’t think that i’ll be using to mutch dust devil in pvp ( with rank 8 i think never), and i need a lot of silver to upgrade my real damage skills like hexen dropper.
The problem is that right now (rank 5) i don’t have to many skills and in ranks 6 and 7 i’ll just have 2 more damage skills for my skill rotation.

Now i have 5 points in dust devil and just 2 in jolly roger, what do you recommend me to do with my points ( i have a skill reset from event):

a/ leave dust devil in 5 points and upgrade jolly roger to level 10, and in rank 8 use the skill reset and put the 5 points in dust devil to jolly roger.

b/ leave jolly roger in 2 points and upgrade dust devil to level 13,and in rank 8 make a decision about if its worth keeping dust devil in the skill rotation and use the skill reset if i must.

c/ Go YOLO mode, use the skill reset right now and put the points in dust devil in jolly roger to start farming money and items(i think that isn’t a real option xD…).

As a last question, jolly roger is something like: going 2 Lvs or 15, or i will really notice a good diference from lv 2 to 10? right now i don’t see items, just some silver but it isn’t usual.

#98

Again I’m fairly certain Jolly Roger is just linear scaling. Meaning, level 5 would be 5x as effective as level 1, and level 10 is 2x as effective as level 5.

#99

Question about jr 15 i think a month ago or so someone reported that his jr15 got bugged that he was not being able to loot anything at all., have you had the same experience as him?

Here’s the report

#100

Nope, never had a problem.

#101

I see , thanks for answering i’ve decided to take corsair3 as my r8 for my shinobi and just make it as my moneymaking alt for the meantime and hope for a dual wielding class that would give it more synergy at rank 9

#102

Just save some points so you get Hexen Dropper once you get to rank 6. Once Hexen is at lv. 5, put all remaining points in JR or Iron Hook (for PvP). I don’t think you need to use a skill reset potion at this point.

@Noobz JR is bugged. Sometimes, when a mob casts a spell, you loose Pillage buff. JR: Unity remains but Pillage buff will disappear from screen. I’m not sure if it’s a visual glitch only (I doubt it) but it’s a bit annoying since you need to leave JR area and reenter to regain both buffs.

#103

Yes i notice that too its kinda annoying for my party atm but i usually spam jr in all missions/dungeons dun care if they overlap each other lol i aim for cards such as glass mole and werewolf them cards are too good to not take chances

#104

This happens whenever you hit an object that can’t be looted. Such as root crystal or a fireball.

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