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How can you stay alive with Deeds of Valor stacked to 10+

At DoV 10 I find that I usually get 1HKO, on the rank 8 maps I struggle past 5 stacks already. Yet many guides are suggesting to max DoV to 15, that just increases the duration and your chances of getting 1 hit KO’ed. Stacking defense doesn’t help, the only other way is to stack HP but at most u sustain 1 more hit.

I’m thinking of leaving DoV at 10, what’s the point if u die before u can stack that high?

evasion, canceling dov when it gets to very high stacks.

ET I never die because of:

Ausrine, Missile hole

you will regret not getting dov15 several times over once you get to that point

but soloing 290 dungeon i just cancel my own dov if it gets over 5.

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Does DoV still stack when u’re getting hit while under ausrine or missile hole? That would explain a lot

yes for missile hole but not sure about ausrine, I usually ignore that buff and just dps anyway because melees never hit me lol

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Thanks for the vid, explains it.

While we’re here, can u tell me the difference in damage between:

  1. Level 6 Zornhau with attribute
  2. Level 6 Zucken with attribute
  3. Level 6 Zucken + shock with attribute?

Level 6 Zucken with attribute
Level 6 Zucken + shock with attribute?

this is somewhere on my thread with screens, you can check with some scrolling

nvm, found it

Level 6 Zornhau with attribute

will do after my daily in game chores

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Thanks, I was kinda looking for the total damage, like is it 40k vs 45k vs 50k? that’ll give me a bit more understanding of which to choose

Okay, will post after my dailies, but don’t expect a big difference I think it’s like a 20-30% modifier only

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While you’re testing, can u also test Sturtz lv 5’s damage please? I wanna see how bad it is relative to the 3 attribute skills because Sturtz actually has 2 overheat and AOE atk ratio

Monster: Vilkas Spearman
Leather
Armor Break applied
all tests are all crits, tested once only - not exactly accurate because of 2h sword min/max

Lv5 Sturtzhau (20% damage attribute)
from 387 127 hp
to 352 461 hp
damage dealt: 34 666

Zucken Level 1 (Multi cut + 40% damage attribute)
from 296 652
to 216 877
damage dealt: 79 775

Zucken Level 1 + Shock (Multi cut + 40% damage attribute)
from 175 591
to 83 784
damage dealt: 91 807

So zucken lv 1 + shock actually does LESS damage than without shock? Doesn’t make sense.

Also this confirms that lv 5 Sturtz does more damage than the 3 attribute skills at doppel 2

I think you’re misreading it (or am I?). Those numbers are the targets’ HP before and after, not the damage done.

Sturtz did 35k damage
Zucken did 80k damage
Shock + Zucken did 92k damage

You are correct,

From "Monster Current HP"
To “Monster Current HP” after using skills

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@GoldenCross
edited my post to avoid misunderstanding

sturtz is weak, but it’s undeniably a great filler when armor break is down, when on destruction objectives and has better damage per level scaling compared to others

I see, I was definitely misreading it.
Wow, sturtz is weak then, although it’s not exactly fair comparing 20% dmg attributes to 40%.

I wonder how Zornhau’s damage is with attributes?

The problem is this: I’m still levelling but I am planning to spread my doppel points like this: (no skill reset)

This will leave me with 6 skill points. I have a few choices with these 6 points:

  1. Get lv 6 Zucken (no shock)
  2. Get lv 6 Zornhau
  3. Get lv 5 Sturtz
  4. Take 1 point off DoV (making DoV 14) then put it on 1 Zornhau and 6 Zucken (Zucken + shock)

What in your opinion is the best choice here?

since you are barb 3 you want every single offensive skill available
so either 6 zucken or 1 sturtz+ something else

if you don’t have a good weapon either you will see yourself having a hard time against monsters like centaurus

https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/58526

I can see them making 2k-3k def monsters soon. sturtz will come in handy if anything

We still don’t have the upgraded version of sturtzhau, a.k.a 200 p. def ignored per skill level hence we dont notice a big difference even having it at lvl 5. So it’s better to keep it at lvl 5 for now.

yes, that’s why I mentioned it at being handy specifically for barbs

I actually have uses for it as well on my HL, during my 10 sec downtime on skull swing.

Yeah high def monsters are one of my concerns and sturtz will seem to be able to deal with that better than the other 2, not to mention the overheat and AOE atk ratio.

I’ll probably stick to sturtz for now, thanks for the help guys

Better to have high HP than pdef.

From 20% to 40% attribute on sturtz damage goes from 34.666 to 40.443.