Just some theory Crafting a holy lighting build based on My love for Faith builds in dark souls haha
Basically the aim is to be a healer / support / dps build.
what about pvp would it work stat wise also ?
Share your comments please
It’s never a good idea to split your sources of dps between int-based and str-based. If you’re dead set on the class build, it would better to go int all the way. At the very least, Barrier has an attribute that lets it do your full matk damage each time a monster tries to walk into it, and Barrier has a 100% uptime.
Also Fade 1 is too good of a utility to pass up. Lower Deprotected Zone to 3 just to get the attribute, put 1 point in Fade, put the other in Cure. You might also want to consider lowering Safety Zone in favor of Cure for more damage.
how would you change the skil build ?
big damage factor if i had half int instead of full or vise versa STR mainly for skills i mean?
Fade aside from concealing yourself does it do anything else ?
PVP wise how would this build fair?
Hard to assume since i have never played a paladin ><
Fade makes monsters ignore you and your party members for the duration of the skill, unless you attack them. This is super useful for boss rushing dungeons since you can run halfway to the boss before Fade runs out. Can also be used to remove boss aggro on you or on squishy party members. The two downsides to Fade are 1) with respect to World boss monsters, Fade makes all the built up damage contribution of your party drop to 0 which means no boss loot box for you, and 2) Fade has a rather short range so keep that in mind when trying to hit other party members.
Key points of this build:
Cleric - Deprotect Zone 3 is all you need for the attribute. Any more is pointless. Max Cure because it’s actually a good damage skill for an INT build.
Krivis - Zalciai 3 for the same reason as deprotect zone 3. Placed more points in Daino to accommodate possibly partying with Chronos, Thaumaturges, and Priests/Chaplains.
Paladin - Resist Elements 15 because it’s one of those skills where it’s not a bad idea to dump points into.
Things to consider changing:
You’re the rare breed of Krivis/Paladin build which makes Aukuras+Restoration work well together. It would be great if you can get a Squire friend to regularly play with for the party hp-regen meta.
Also, you may want to consider dropping a few points of Smite for Turn Undead just so Turn Undead can hit more enemies. Despite the demon/mutant limitation, a huge chunk of mobs in this game are actually demon/mutant, specially in just about every dungeon along the way.
looks good, i assume 1 points into safety zone is sufficient enough ?
what in regards to stats, dumping STR is a bad idea ? i only added 100 dex because it said i need at least that much to land hits in PVP.
Honestly, I question the PvP effectiveness of your build. All your damage skills are going to be a pain to land on players.
As for STR, you should really decide how much you want to be a hybrid character. Just about everyone will tell you that going str/int hybrid is a bad idea. You would want to pick one side and stick with it.
How much dex makes it viable in PvP …as for the magic skills they dont miss right ?
Only reason im thinking mix str and int is so both my melee and magic skills actually do damage and not just have it be from one side…
Which raises my q .how much damage am i really missing out on…gear cant compensate for the difference ?
Hey I’m going to give you some tough love. Reroll, the idea was not a good one and it wont do well at all. For pvp, the only thing you will ever do is give some one else free kills. You will have heal, so in that regard you might feel useful, but you could make a build 10x more useful than what youre doing.
As far pali goes, right now its 100% garbage because the only thing you get out of it really is barrier, and ANY ONE can cast barrier for the minor cost of 1.5k Silver, by buying a barrier scroll from the AH. Now, if that changes in the future, pali might be wanted again for somethings. Although it doesn’t stop bosses, currently doesn’t stop players, barely helps with magic, doesn’t help with range at all, and can make grinding slower because the mobs gets spread out instead of clustered together.
Reason to go pali c1 for STR build is for its melee attack skill, which cleric trees lack over all, but you could also go diev for carve and that’s probably the better choice. For INT builds, turn undead is very good, but only in some situations. Having int makes it at least viable for damage against anything though, especially the dreaded flying mobs that can avoid tiles. Either way, not the best idea. Conversion is also a poor and buggy gimmick spell atm. I made a int based cleric 3 pali 1 for the restoration spell because I wanted the strongest possible heals for possible GvG later on, but I ended up regretting pali 1 even on that character because you can just buy restoration scrolls lol. Pardoner really does break the cleric tree ATM, but it probably hit pali the hardest.
If you want to be different and not go the PD rout like every one else, I would suggest druid c2. You could have a lot of fun, role play to your hearts content, still be very good for pve, and currently god tier PvP. Especially if you wanted to give up some or all transformation time in exchange for more mind control, damage immunity, and higher DPS. I’m currently making a cleric2 Diev 3 Druid 2, and I plan to go druid 3 when tier 8 drops.
But long story short, pali is trash. I hate it too trust me, but that’s just how it is. Even the best possible pali 3 build would still be trash. If you take that and divide its points between int, str, dex, and con… Well, you would honestly be severly gimping any future team mates you ever plan to have. Do them the favor and don’t follow through with this lol. Hope that helps.
Edit: Pali might actually be a better c1 than diev for melee classes, I’m not really sure. Its probably what I would go instead of diev 1 but that’s just me.
Dammit lool… okay i suppose i have to give up on PVP if i want a paladin/krivis build . what about PVE and being support in dungeons would the build still work if i just put full INT ?
Thats really weird tho i mean when u look at the kit the paladin has on paper, healer / elemental resistance / barriers / safety zones etc etc youd imagine hed alot tougher to deal with, specifically since most games where the guardian class is just really hard to kill in 1v1 situation yet here it works the opposite, quite heartbreaking.
If this doesnt work in pve dungeons etc, i suppouse ill just forget being a pally for now and just make a shinobi or something lol.
GIVE ME SOME LAST HOPE !!
What the guy @kml_176 says is true and false.
Going so far to say pally is 100% garbage is not true at all.
Pally is getting buffed. Resist Elements will have an added % reduction to elemental damage taken. (Insanely good, from a defensive standpoint).
Pally is not a pvp class unless your main focus is being a tank against mages and healing/support.
Pally has the best scaling skill in the game against mutated/devil mobs (not bosses) which is Turn Undead. <- Smite is in a similar fashion. This is PvE related.
Now as I say this, I will say Pally is not the best choice if you’re all about the deeeps, but by no means is pally 100% garbage.
Just so you know pally scales better with Dex than Str.
P.S. going only 1 circle of pally is not really worth it. It’s one of those all or nothing circles (pally 3 or no pally at all)
Edit: Didnt read your post. So to answer your question.
Pally is tanky against elemental magic. It is not tanky against physical dmg, but thats why you have safety zone.
Heal from cleric and pally restoration have synergy, giving heal tiles bonus heal when the person stepping on them is affected by the restoration aura.
Krivis support is usually best when you have Spr due to lowering crit resist and buffing crit dmg
As for any other info I havent slept yet, so my brain is on fumes.
Check out the megathreads on the cleric section of the forums for more info
I’m sorry but you just said go all into pali or don’t go into it at all. But pali c2 gives you a useless buggy skill that almost no one would suggest putting a single point into. And pali c3 gives you a single spell, that any one else can buy for 1.5k on the AH. So why go more into it? To farther upgrade its tier 1 skills and save some silver on your barriers?
Restoration and I’m pretty sure that elemental protection spell can both be bought from the Ah also. So you’re throwing away 3 circles just to get 3 attacks. Now by just about any ones standards, that’s pretty bad. You can say its not 100% garbage if you want to, but I think 90% garbage is fair lol.
P.S. turn undead is actually really good, but only when fighting demons/mutants. So you can be in some dungeons and blow away 10 mobs instantly and make the rest of your team look bad, then you can go into a dungeon and be down a skill and all the points you sank into it.
Ok guess i have to give up on my paladin.
Problem with most builds posted are all outdated and when i read the comments it ends up saying not viable.
Currently im cleric 1 krivis 1…where should i head towards from here…
Again to make something viable in pvp pve support dps in a dungeon
just make druid or PD with INT build i think its better than pally. You know Pardoner realy fukup pally ( 1,5k barier scrol ) cant scrol resist and resto thought but its not that good. Pally wont be able too PVP lol. Barier doesnt work there too. For PVE its a okay one.
Cle2 > Diev3 > Druid > PD / Druid2
I think this one give decent DPS, okay support, and enough heal. But if you realy want PVP that much go
Cle 2 > Pr3 > ??? > Pd with all CON build. almost immortal in PVP lol.
Haha okay i get the point pally fails…
The build you mentioned however does not have krivis and im already almost rank 3 hence i cannot make… main q is now which path to head towards…druid kabalist or PD
you probably already decided, but going krevis 3 into druid with full int has huge DPS for bossing. But if you already put points into dex/str then just reroll your character lol. It might seem like a pain but wasting a few hours is nothing compared to the time it takes to max a character out
Luckly i havent put any points aside int…
My only choice is krivis 3 then druid ?
If you are not looking for min-maxing or competing with the ‘meta’, Paladin does not “fail”.
You have Cleric 2, so you are already an average support.
You would have Restoration, so you will have Heal that is above average (plus around 50% more heal, hidden mechanic).
You would have maxed out Resist Element, which is good stuffs, especially so when the KTOS patches hit ITOS.
While I don’t like the build, it can still be a fun build to play if you are looking to experiment.
If you are set on making a new build, I suggest remake a new character. Rank 2 is really, really quick to get to.
Kriv C2 into Sadhu C2 then Druid C2.
Kriv C3 into Pardoner C3.
Kriv C2 into Paladin C3 then Grab Plague Doctor/Kabbalist.
Kriv C3 Monk, but you already went INT so nope.
I don’t see an issue with going Paladin C3, but if you push Paladin C3 to be your R7 rank and you are not a Pardoner? Meh.
Restoration will boost your Heal and Aukuras while providing its own so your heal output will be passable.
Sadhu got nerfed no ?
kriv C2 Paladin C3 Doctor, might work, but id lose on cleric 2 and heals well be reduced alot no ? and if i pumped only INT Paladin Skills wont really inflict much damage, so i dunno about that one.
Kriv C3 Monk , how would you build it i could remake if the build is interesting.
Every one saying pali is an ok choice is either ignorant and has no right to advise other people, or wants to treat you like a child that might cry if you don’t get your way. You seem mature to me so this just seems like an insult.
Pali c1 is something you can do if you want to give up being great for a “non-meta” build. Pali c3 is something you can only do if you want to be bad and unwanted. It will literally tempt people to just leave your dungeon groups at higher levels, and if dungeons runs weren’t limited, most people probably would. Some might any way.
Note that this isn’t so much directed at OP as all the ppl responding telling you that its a valid option. They are just wrong, period.
EDIT: Just found out that turn undead is a scroll in auction house too LMFAO