I’ve recently seen many Korean MMOs having some way of informing you of how many hours you have been logged in and telling you to take a break. I heard that in South Korea, gaming addiction is a big problem so it’s not a surprise to me if our international servers have something like this too.
Hmmm… i guess it depends… if the way we are notified doesnt interfere with our gameplay… then i guess I’m okay with it… woudnt bode well to be in the middle of a boss fight and a notification box pops
Logically speaking, there really isn’t a point to having those sorts of notifications.
The reason Hikikomori/NEETs/gaming addicts aren’t going outside isn’t that they aren’t aware of how many hours they spend on the computer. They’re not just “forgetting” to go outside.
That kind of behavior is symptomatic of a much bigger problem. Probably, playing video games/surfing the net/whatever they do on the computer is a form of escapism from real life.
Having a notification pop-up and tell you 'hey, you’ve been playing this for 12 hours straight, turn it off and go outside" is like telling an alcoholic “yo, this is your 12th shot of Jaeger, don’t you think you’ve had enough?”
-Nod nod- I can vouch for Akizora, I’m a NEET myself. Though I don’t really care much for the outside even when I don’t have games to play.
If I’m correct, hikikomori is a syndrome where people tend to ignore social relation (anti social). But they still have friends from the net, aren’t they? So this is a bit contradicting.
Yea maybbe thats because they are assuming that online interaction doesnt counts as social probably…
It is if you consider all people equal.
It’s nice to think that way but I hardly believe it.
I am fully aware of the fact I am both superior and inferior to certain people and I do consider myself as such.
(this is just an example of the mentality, I’ll give some case scenarios below)
It’s easier to trust people who don’t judge you by anything but your personality and tastes.
Most of them, if not all, will never be able to do you any form of harm.
I don’t ever expect to meet most of the people I know online and thus can be more frank, rude or in fact anything I feel like being while only talking to people I will never meet.
The behaviour itself might be so, though there’s every possibility that it’s that there is a third, fourth or fifth aspect to his mentality that makes him avoid it. Whether it be neglect, distrust or anything at all.
As someone who avoids most social contact in my real life, I have to say I loathe the idea of having to maintain an image of myself for most reasons.
This is a pride/shame/ego-related issue and is probably the reason for many social kinks in society.
This one is arguably more common since it’s even present online.
Plenty of people mask themselves and unlike real life, there’s almost no risk of being unmasked and even then the risks are often minimal.
I think this condition, if we were to call it that… doesn’t matter very much.
The fact we’re making a big deal out of it just means we’re not used to it, yet.
Health tips in game sound fine.
To be honest, I’m a “hikikomori” but I am not a NEET. Had to drop out after middle school to go working (no parents, was a poor ass even for a poor developing country standard). Beside having a gloomy future for not having a proper education and spent most of my times on labor fields, things weren’t really bad. In later years, I even had my time and some money on the weekend to play some hours of RO in a nearby Internet coffee shop (sorry for mentioning RO on TOS forum but this is “Off-Topic Forum” after all). RO was the main connection between me and my friends in school and it was a beautiful replacement of this rather ugly reality, so I think I can say that RO was the reason for me to live back then beside my cowardly personality. So for some years ago, my sister married this rich guy who is also very kind, she has been very happy with her new family now and the guy has been buying me foods and paying my Internet so I am happy too. And like that I have totally became a shut-in loser who is too pathetic to get out of his home. I don’t know when was it developed but I know I have had quite a troublesome social anxiety for a while, the like that makes you panicked and scared so much that you just want to end yourself so you don’t have to face such a fate of going outside. It sounds silly but I wish I can feel of it like that. But I work too, I think I might be able to support myself when I am left alone, that is if there is a strong enough reason for me to stay in this place. Now that you take away ToS and I might kill myself one of these days. I know no one cares, just saying.
Outside or on the Internet, I still am one of so many, if I can’t have friends in real life, I wouldn’t be able to have real friends on the Internet but I at least I don’t feel panicked that much hiding behind my monitor. Having friends on the Internet might be nice but I doubt it’s easy for me. Someone who can relate to me and someone who I can relate to, someone that we can have sympathy for each other, it’s hard to find that kind of a person.
I have been studying my case for quite a while but if I get serious here and tell you what I really think and how I feel, it would feel very bad for me. Would rather having someone just call me a weakling loser than making a circle-jerk that triggers my self-pity in full.
I still don’t like the idea of putting more burdens on parents though (because I don’t have them so I don’t really know, maybe I will think different if I have). I understand that life may get really hard for someone to the point they shut themselves in as a mean of protection, but might their parents’ life ain’t easy either. Parents have to deal with all the troubles in life too and work hard to support you, they might be stressed pretty much and be hard on you. So if you feel that you parents don’t understand you, the chance that you don’t understand them either, it’s hard to get a fair view over one’s own emotions. Now they are old and yet they are still unable to have a proper rest, having to be worrying over their child for days on end. Eventually they leave this life losing their hope for their child, bearing the guilt and the stress to their last breaths. That sounds pretty cruel to me. See how in anime and manga they often exclude the parents out of screen? I don’t like that at all. Maybe I am being arrogance and judgemental but I am just so jealous. Some people have their parents trying to hold their hands in one way or another, yet they still turn their backs to them because they don’t feel that is enough.
What am I talking about… I have been on the Internet for too long to know that you shouldn’t try whining your problems on the Internet on a place filled of strangers… When I am sleepy I talk a lot… They say being sleepy puts people in a similar state as being drunk… Being a total shut-in is great, you don’t have to wake up in time in the morning so just stay up as long as you like and only sleep when you really feel like to. Being a total shut-in is depressing, nothing cool at all, no hope that things will ever change, guilt and ashamed of yourself, self-pity and all, loneliness, anxieties, anxieties, a lot of anxieties, you know full well if you keep being this way the future is going to turn out pretty bad but it’s too much to break out, it feels like impossible, you feel like you would rather die. I hope no one puts their mind too much in anime and manga to think that being a shut-in is amusing.
Being a loser I really hate cocky people, they are too full of themselves just because they were born more lucky. I am over sensitive because I have been called a loser by spoiled brats who get all the support they need in life to be success. I am just a jealous bastard. On a bright side, I have no responsibility to bear for having old parents. Yup! Must be optimistic!
So back to the topic of “hikikomori and computer games”, as a hikiko-something, I play video games to forget that I am a loser and also to have more chance to ■■■■people over.
Quite a long time since the last time I had a proper rant. Feeling nice right now but I’m sure I will feel very embarrassed and regret this after a long sleep. You know, over-sleeping makes you very self-conscious and boosts your insecurity. One part that always goes along with being a shut-in is that you sleep a lot, like a whole lot.
@Raine
That’s a lot of salt. (and some less-than-decent things)
I myself consider it unbecoming to accept easily malleable conditions as an excuse after a certain age.
Good that you’re at least slightly aware of the potential regret you may have. (if any…)
Optional.
Some prefer the awake-all-night and zombie-all-day approach with short naps to make up for it.
I may not be a shut in, though on the days where I am, I tend to stay awake til 7am, nap until 10, then proceed to go on with my day as usual. (not a good way to live, really)
Yes, it is. This topic, when we honestly talk about it in a serious manner, it can’t never be a fun and amusing thing. We are talking about constant mental torments of real people with serious real problems. I’m curious, what are those “less-than-decent things” you talk about?
Don’t misunderstand. I am 22 now and I started working full time as an adult at the age of 15, started working “part-time” years before that. When in school, I always have to be one of these “chosen” students so that I don’t have to pay the school fees and also get money for that. Dangerous works if you say, I lost some of my front teeth, have bad scars on my lips and my hands. I worked hard so that my sister could finish her study, found a good job and having a happy family. I feel like I can let she care for me for a while (well, I’m not sure I want this “a while” to ever stop but still). I may am a loser based on some people’ definition but not a dumb nor useless one, I still work and save money in case I may need it in the future. If my sister’s family ever need my help, I will be able to support them back to an extend. At least in my intent, I’m more willing to end my life than let others suffer because of me. There is no excuse I need to make, at least not to anyone here. I have no need for acceptation from anyone who didn’t feed me a single meal.
Yes again, I’m full of salt. I really hate cocky people who think they are on the ground to label and judge others who didn’t harm nor hurt anyone. So to be honest, you talked about being inferior and superior, do the thought that I am inferior to you ever crosses your mind? It’s a lie if I say that I don’t care. People suffer so much and those are the firsts to be in your mind? Even I have to consider that I am more lucky to many, I had nice people who helped me. Some just don’t have anything at all, some just get abused so much it becomes almost impossible for them to properly be decent or educated in many people’ standards. So this is my opinion, when you judge and label people with your inferior / superior standard, you should keep it to yourself and don’t talk as others need these opinions. It’s absolute hell on Earth if everyone is full of this ■■■■.
Good for you to know what is good for me.
Also I’m over-sensitive and I like to hide behind my monitor and bash people on the Internet.
The fun is in the bashing, not the result. Who cares about the worst that can happen to you over the Internet? I only care about my fun.
lulz lulz your a noob
BTW, all people who use meme are idiots.
@Raine
I’d like to give a clean, properly dissected answer as I often do for the posts I’ve made round here… but I think I’ll just say ;
“Yes, no and haha.”
Feel free to label it to whichever question or statement you’ve given me.
The outcomes seem more-or-less equal.
For the sake of whatever, I will clarify that I don’t have an opinion of you when it comes to being superior or inferior.
It’s not like you’re one of my guild members or a friend.
This next part is not intended to be mean.
You are about as relevant to me as a wall of text, just right now.
p.s. If you feel that I have given a less-than-acceptable response, do arrange the lines you want me to respond to in a neat manner. I’d rather not have to respond to every single thing you’ve put into that one post.
I wouldnt bother trying to have a reasonable discussion with him, he finds happiness arguing over the internet which is rather sad, so let him live in his bubble and let him be.
Meh. Being as much reasonable as I can, all I can see is that I just honestly answered an question someone gave me along with a meme seemingly for mocking intent. I didn’t know what you expected me to say. I’m sorry for not saying something so that you could laugh at my face and feel all cool! I’m so sorry and I’m appreciated that you decide to let me be! Because what else can you do now? Posting another meme? Or trying to poke into someone’s conversation in the hope of getting a comrade who admits with you that I am an ■■■■■■■? You intentionally put a stick in an ■■■■■■■and expect to pull out a reasonable discussion? I know you aren’t going to answer these uneducated nonsense questions so prick yea! Never mind! (You do mind a little bit right? I know, just a little little bit.)
Ah. I’m sorry for the wall of text, here I will try to summary my points into another wall of text:
You tell me my post is a lot of salt. I tell you that you are right and I want to explain the reasons.
You told me that there are “some less-than-decent things” in my post, I asked what are those.
You feel like there is something unacceptable about my way of life? Well, when you do that to some random stranger of course you should expect for sometime to have a wall of text threw right onto your face.
If you don’t mind another improper less than decent wall of text then excuse me I am going to make one because I am an uncool person and uncool people talk a lot.
My first post here is to tell my personal experiments. Does it have anything to do with you? Yes, of course it does! I freaking wrote it on a public forum, of course someone would read it and reply if they have enough of care to give. That’s why I said I would latter regret of ever posting it. I was in the wrong that I make this thread so personal while it just mean to be some light-hearted silly chatty one for people to waste their time waiting until we all get to play the game we are supposed to love.
OP! I AM SO SORRY TO MAKE YOUR THREAD LIKE THIS! LIKE SERIOUSLY I AM SO SORRY!
No one here needs to know about my personal problems, no one at all… And how can they know that I don’t just make up these stories in order to gain Internet sympathy and feel better of myself? That may actually be the case! What was in my mind… I am so dumb… I am so dumb! Such whinny little kid! Seriously I am being serious. I am feeling so embarrassed right now… I feel like crying like a little girl. I hope I didn’t post anything and just kept lurking around and swearing only in my head when reading posts from suckers like how I did for months…
Put that aside, you seemingly told me that you consider my choice of life is unacceptable and I am making excuse, that there are bad things in my post. Then you ended it telling me you think it is good that I know I have been making wrong life choices? So do I care? Of course I do! How the heck can I not? You basically told me that you think I suck and my life sucks.
The result is that I feel offended on the Internet. As how it always happen, I have to declare for the Internet to know that I am being offended and that the offender is more sucking than me! So what I mean is that you suck. But do you care? Of course not! Who am I even kidding? Someone like you would have too much important things in your mind to be bothered by some random loser on the Internet like me. Right? I hope I am right. But then I’m genuinely wondering why would you ever found the need to throw your opinions onto my face in the first place. Opps… Because I posted it here for everyone to read, my… I’m sorry. Well, the one in wrong is me so I hope you accept this sincerely apologize of mine and forgive for all the arrogance I have been spilling out till now. I am really sorry…
Ugh… I think I just violated quite some of the community rules. Well, that is a normal thing for a loser like me after all… Hope they don’t enforce justice too tightly around here.
BTW, you read it all the way to this line? Haha, don’t know who you are but you are quite a loser unless you are one of the staffs. Of course being a staff you have to read posts to make sure none violates the rule. I always look up to you people managing such a place. No serious, I love you! If not for you making such a master piece of beautiful art and being so silent I wouldn’t lose my patient and join the forum to humiliate myself like this so you staffs suck too! Don’t you dare to ban me but please don’t ban me… I know, I will respect other people, I will try not to offend anyone here and throw drama around again. 
Thank you,
P/s: That was tiresome writing all this. I hope no one flags this.
I don’t care, post away XD
