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Help with Wugushi C3 build

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Just got the game, and I am very interested in the Wugushi class and want to take it to circle 3. I’m not concerned about pvp at all. I’m primarily focused on solo play and PvE content, but im not too sure on builds.

I’ve been reading through these forums but I can’t really find an answer. I’ve seen these builds suggested:

Archer 3 > Wugushi 3 > Cannoner or Musketeer
Archer 1 > Ranger 1 > Sapper 1 > Wugushi 3 > Cannoner or Musketeer

Which build would suit me best for PvE solo play?
Stat wise, I’ve read that poison can’t crit, so I was thinking of going 3:1 Str:Con, but would i need some points in Dex?

#2

Sapper 1 is negligible. Get Sapper if you’d go up to C2 or C3, otherwise get other class.

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#3

thanks for the reply, I’ve only suggested sapper 1 as builds such as this one suggest I take it for AoE damage. So in your opinion would going Archer 3 > Wugushi 3 be better for solo play? I’m also unsure which would be better for me Cannoner or Musketeer, I’m thinking Musketeer since i’ll have AoE from Wugushi so Musketeer would improve my single target damage? Or should I aim for Cannoner for even more AoEs?

#4

I would not say that I like that build, because you’d go Sapper because of the Broom Trap which can be used in circle 2/3. Also, I’ve seen the standard Archer 3 > Wugushi 3, it works well I suppose. Cannoneer is great for PVE especially on Earth Tower. That’s all I can say.

#5

I’d suggest going Archer 2 and Ranger 1 OR Ranger 2. Wugushi’s AoE only affects ground mobs after all. No matter what, do not neglect DEX. Put it at 100-150. There’s a somewhat old thread somewhere explaining the details but it’s basically because you don’t want to miss your shots.

It’s a matter of choosing between Multi-shot and Barrage, since poison can’t crit.

#6

thanks guys, i’ll give the archer 3 > Wugushi 3 > possibly musketeer a try. thinking of going 3:1:1 str:con:dex for stats now

#7

I’m currently Ranger C2 > Wugushi and it’s pretty solid. I’m just not sure if I go Ranger C3 > Wugushi C3 or Ranger C2 > Wugushi C3 > Canoneer.

#8

Don’t go ranger 3, I would go Ranger 2 wugushi3 cannon… ranger3 is not even close to cannon so you’re shooting yourself in the foot by getting r3 instead of csnnon

#9

What about ranger 2 wugu 2 scout and canno?

#10

Ranger c3 skills are mediocre AOE wise. Barrage is what you want, and the base damage diference will be less effective as you level up and get better gear. Barrage lvl 5 is enough. Ranger c2 is whack as well.

Sapper asks for circle 2. Never go circle 1. Always 2. Although 3 doesnt offer anything in the OMG tier for pve, 10/10 broom trap is good, but lvl 5 BT is enough. Stake stockades is good as well.

If you are going for wugushi c3, for the sake of it, make sure you are not doing this for Jincan Gu. The skill isnt bad, but it isnt something as well. There are some KR videos showing how it isnt that great at all. Wugushi 3 is for more levels in Wugong Gu, Throw Gu pot, Needle Blow, and Zendhu (the leftover points ofc). Wugong Gu and Needle Blow tick for base damage +100% physical damage, and get more ticks as you level them up, so they are a must to max.

AOE damage against flying targets: Zendhu your party, wugong gu, barrage. Spread the poison, now go spam oblique for the rest of your life. Use viper. Even eles have problems AOEing flying monsters anyways. Get some traps inside the mobbage, use detonate traps with the flying mob dmg atribute.

Going cannoneer instead of wugushi 3 offers more AOE burst, less single target. Going wugushi 3 offers more Single target, less AOE DPS. keep in mind not critting in cannoneer skills is like splitting the chocolate on the floor.

Pay attention here, you came all your way with: Ranger Sapper c2, wugushi c2. If you noticed it, all the skills you use scale better with str, (barrage, broom trap, poisons). Cannoneer urges for critical hits! Only barrage and BT can crit, but they scale well with both full str or DEX>str builds as well! But you have poisons and they cant crit…

You know you can have decent crit rate even going full str via min-maxing and archer c2 instead of ranger c1. (but you could be using those weapon sockets and sub weapon sockets for physical attack and max attack, but oh you gotta choose at some moment o.O)

#11

why going wugu 3 offers more single target? wugong and throw gu are really strong AOE, Cannon AOE crit can be solve by good crit rate items which in terms boost your overall AOE dps cause of additional str, but harder to gear since need sisels mana mana, lvl 6 stones or crit rate headgears

#12

More uptime on DOTs. Wugong gu is both AOE and ST. Needle Blow is ST. Needle Blow gets 20 secs duration and 20 secs CD. Wugong gets to 20 secs duration and 25 secs cd. And Wugu 3 offers aoe ofc, but in comparison to wugu 2 cannon and wugu 3, if you get enought crit rate, cannon blast and cannonshot pack an extra punch to aoe dps.

Wugu 3: Single Target > AOE
Wugu 2 Cannon: Single Target < AOE

Even though your Wugong Gus damage gets higher, 445 more damage per tick from lvl 10 to 15, hardly a pack of monsters is gonna survive more than 20 seconds.

Both have strong aoe btw.

#13

yeah I strongly agree with you, I dont see mobs living for 20secs duration , that is why im going the canon path for a punch on my AOE rather than another 5sec duration which I think in party play wouldn’t last that long

#14

What i would like for you is to keep some stuff in mind:

  1. You choose the wugushi c3 route. Your overall build synergizes well with full str, all your skills are multihit (regardless if you took ranger 1 or archer c2 at rank 2), your poisons are almost 100% uptime, >>Wugong Gu can be spread to a total of 15 targets without linkers involved<<

  2. You choose the Cannoneer route. Now go get that crits for the sake of cannon blast, You lost some single target and 5 targets on Wugong Gu, but who cares, you got two 5 sec cd 8 AOE ratio AOE dmg skills and one 30 sec cd skill 10 AOE ratio that, if crits, wrecks. But god, pray for it to crit. You need min-maxing, be prepared to farm, have nightmares etc. 60% crit rate is decent (596 crit rate (with swift step atrib ON) if you consider earth tower monsters, with zalciai and monstrance, you get above 100% crit rate. With monstrance and zalciai -need a lovely cleric tho-, most of your crit rate is wasteed, in fact you would need not more than 159-200 crit rate with the aforementioned buffs + archer c2 to hit crit chance cap on every single monster in this game, but you do need a lovely cleric, and we dont find love in real life, you know. This is the reason lots of people seek for STR, and lots of players recommend full str builds. They simply heavily (i said heavily) outdo in ideal scenarios (ideal scenario in our case: cleric2kri1priest3X). For everytime you use cannon skills and they dont crit, you lost some big damage.

  3. Cannoneer skills wont benefit from Manamanamanamanmanamanmanamanamanamnamanamnamanmanaman (have you realized how funny is its name?), arde dagger, viper, etc. Keep in mind Weapon Swap, unless you are lonely in the world, will drop your fps, making you effectively loose DPS, burst, etc. Unles you wugong gu, gu pot, broom trap, swap and… oh you just lost some ticks from viper or manamanamanamanamnamanmanamanmanamanamana :c

  4. Cannoneers dont have a hat.

(im a wugushi main this post wasnt biased at all, though i have my points and they are right)

Both builds have its downs and ups, you, in the end, are the one to choose.

And i forgot to do calcs involving chronomancers quicken, but no more maths for today.

And i didnt take world bosses in fact o.O7 But the monsters, outside of bosses, i took all of them yes

#15

lol funny post, yes I guess that is the downside of cannon, would a full str canon deal crappy damage with skills if it doesnt crit? is it really that bad? cause I don’t really see the c3 of wugushi being of that help because of little increase in ticks damage but increase in duration which you wouldn’t be maximized in almost all situation

#16

No im overdoing it, you will be fine, only downside is that, for a moment, you loose the effects of viper or manamana during the moments you swap mid poison tick, for cannon aoes and the fps dfrop the weapon swap causes in heavy mobbing scenarios o.o

#17

oh yeah I didn’t think about that, my mananananana would be useless if I were to switch to canon weapon, but anyways since wugu c3 skill isn’t that good, maybe we get even decent new skills for canon on the upcoming rank 8, and even stronger canon skills on c2. its more of a future proof build.

And farming alone with canon is much better cause of the CD and ability to burst down while mobbing.

As of now I’m a qs3 so I have a hard time spreading wugong gus infection since at my lvl running shot metls down foes before having to speard the poison, unless I use multishot to spread it

#18

Wugong Gu isnt used as AOE if the monster can be easily melted down. There are two skills that spread wugong gus poison really fast: broom trap and throw gu pot.

And if you want some truth, when you are farming mobs, and you want to pack them for some aoe. you lure them and blow off some CDs. generally, they have 30-40 secs cd. Until the moment you lure a 2nd group, the CDs are up again. If not, you have running shot, hit lock target hotkey, shoot wugongu, use running shot to spread the poison.

#19

thanks for the tip, canon skills can spead poison too? as of now, I’m not in the part of mobbing yet and my RS can kill mobs in 2-3 hits, I’m at 183.
The mobbing thing you’re talking about is I attack them without RS to lure then wugong gu followed by throwgu to spread poison?

#20

Any skill can spread poison, but this spreading mechanic is kind of gimmicky, thus, multihit skills spread it way better than one hit skills.

And yeah kind of, at higher levels, mobs start getting to tanky (look at alemeth forest for an example), you will generally lure the to aoe them all at once (generally, with the help of a party). Throw wugong gu at any and the way you are gonna work to spread it is your choice. Running shot is a good way to spread. Gu pot is good as well.