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Help on choosing rank 7

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Ok, so im torn between Musk and Cannon as my rank 7. First of all, im not changing my build, all ranks are there for a reason. Im going for A2 > Hunter > Wugushi3 with the main focus being PVP, a high risk high reward build. So id like to know what do you guys think its better for pvp between Cannon and Musket. Ignoring the block pen attribute from cannon because STR is getting the block pen buff. Can cannoneers one shot stuff in pvp? Stat distribution is points in con and dex untill i have 100 in both and the rest in str.

Again, dont discuss early ranks please, im going the poison way all the way.

#2

oh yea definitely cannon can one shot multiple enemies in pvp, and cannon has lower cooldowns. The musketeer snipe however has a higher range but a single target. I am not an archer expert but to me either way is fine, will have its ups and downs depending on what classes you are teamed up with or who you are fighting against. Also it is hard to discuss without talking about early ranks because both classes are damage classes so there is not much difference to them, except one does more single damage target and the other does more aoe, so for further discussion it will be needed to discuss how these r7 synergies with your earlier ranks.

Good luck and hope that helps a bit

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#3

Being that the rest of the Ranks are set in stone ( a lot of people would take wagu 2 and scout as scout is amazing with hunter etc) Its pretty much as rarevalo said, those classes are all about damage, so its not too much difference between the two.

Until you factor in combos with other players.

I personally like cannon because paired with a kino you can use bow 100% modifier and shootdown to do insane amounts of single target damage. Also for group encounters you have cannon blast obviously and if you ever need to support GvG you have object destruction with cannoneer. the stat distribution with musketeers prefer high dex, but with wagushi im assuming you have a higher ratio of strength so idk how musketeer would work out in comparison.

#4

Hi Enri.
I suggest you some changes, in my point of view.
I did few archers to play with PVP focus. I suggest you go for Cannon, because you can hit more then one target…but I would suggest you changes in your build:
1- Hunter 1 is not so good, because you don’t have a good way to control your pet and skip the bad AI. If you go Hunter, put rank 2. Houding gives you more control and is very usefull to find hidden enemys.
Retrive is awsome! Can pull the enemys out from the safety zone and is exellent against iimortal Plague Doctors!
2- Think in add Scout 1 in your build! Thats help a lot! And gives you an exellent combo with rank 7 classes! The cloaking atribute (50% more damage in your first atack while in cloaking!) gives you the chance to become one hit K.O. against some low HP classes.
3- Wugushi it’s an amazing class, but until IMC solve some problems in the mechanic ( add at least some cooldown in the Antidote) the class is easely countered. If you like DoT damage, i suggest you think about Broad Head skill from Fletcher, has a similar effect, but without antidote.

I hope could help you.
Sorry for my english.

#5

Hmm but dont i need an offhand cannon to use shootdown? Because if it does the bonus damage on flying doesnt work right? Ive just realized that im good on single target skills with the wugushi, given i use the poisons at the right time or antidote gets nerfed. Ill probably go cannon. But is shootdown really needed if i have a hunter rank? I mean, dat snatching debuff and bleeding though… I was thinking to get 5 in cannon shot, cannon blast and 4 in burst and 1 in shootdown. Btw, ive heard burst has infinite aoe attack ratio, is that correct?

#6

Hi Enri, I’m not sure if I understood all your doubts, but let me try to explain:
1- All Cannoneer skills need an offhand cannon to be used.
2- Shootdown is an especific skill that has a bonus against flying mobs, so you don’t loose bonus, but, while using a cannon you just can equip a crossbow in your main hand.
3- About the Wugushi, I love the class, and a have one. The problem is, if you play against clerics, plague doctors, other wugushi, or someone that use any antidote, you will have little chance to win. Plague Doctors just nullify your poison, so you cant even hit him or his partners. Thats the problem. About antidote, if they create an cooldown to it, I will have mas re focus on my Wugushi, because his poison hurts a lot!
4- About the other skill, I didn’t put them yet. I just set up some points in Cannon Blast and Cannon Shot, I can’t talk very well about them.
5- About the hunter circle, remember, Snatch is great, but Shootdown has a diferent mechanic. Snatch grab the target, Shootdown it’s just a shoot, and Shootdown can hit more them one target in the same time.

So, I think is this.
See you, man!

#8

Yeah… i appreciate the response but the question was for the other
dude that answered XD And for pd and clerics, coursing disables all
skills and locks them in place, i know that all skills require a cannon
but i was asking about the Psychokino combo he mentioned. And shootdown
is aoe, yes, but for single target snatching is better for the debuffs
it causes, i think. And about something you mentioned on your first
comment, Hunter 1 Pointing works as an ai reset as well. It sucks but it
does work in a pinch, the main problem is that it causes the pet to go
insane in dungeons and highly densed mob areas, which are not the case
in pvp.