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GvG is showing the instability of this game

Besides all the countless bugs this game has, GvG has really made these show to their fullest extent. Rewards are given to those who are among the top of the weekly standing with the best score, but this is easily controlled by crashes, insane amounts of lag and bugs.

At first it was really fun, ignoring all the lag and the chance of the bug where you cannot move/cast when grabbed in Snow Rolling. Then, as of recently, guilds have started to use the “turtle and ice wall” strat. Thanks to how Ice Wall functions, it counts as a player for every individual wall. This causes players to crash when ice wall is put in their face. Once the game initially freezes, you can only log out asap or face being farmed while staying online with a frozen screen.

I don’t care about ego’s or losing. This is about the game as a core. GvG was a breath of fresh air for a lot of us, and even made tons of old members come back. These problems of instability have been a huge problem from the beginning. The FPS-boost patch we got has even seemed to be reverted since this last update. The most optimal way to win is with crashing players and possibly getting the bug with Snow Rolling. I’m not making this post to complain, I’m making this post to help get attention at how fragile this game is at a core, and it really needs to be fixed. I’ve been here since the beginning, and have been patiently waiting for some sort of fix to this optimization. This would greatly help TBL, GvG, and overall enjoyment of the game as a whole.

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Finally someone pointed this out.

I have spectated several TBL/GvG matches where a lot of people got either crashed or stuck because of the Ice Wall. That forced them to re-join, but sometimes that failed.

Can you do something about this? @GM_Sebastian @GM_Francis

If this Ice Wall problem counts as a bug, I wonder whether the people who keep abusing it will count as bug exploiters or not. But I hope this problem can be solved soon.

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I also pointed out issues that are being seen in Battle Leagues and GvG’s but… eh every time Staff is summoned lately they don’t seem to care. That kind of cold-shoulder treatment isn’t a healthy way to treat a customer lol

I have faith they’ll eventually fix bugs but I’m starting to doubt they’ll ever actually fix FPS. I’m almost to the point of begging a creative coder to find a solution for us. If we could even get 20-30 FPS I’d consider ourselves blessed, because right now it’s 2-3 FPS and that is not only insufferable but also unacceptable.

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An instable FPS would be a dream in this game.

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That’s a major problem. You cannot rejoin once you get a crash or bugged in GvG.

I wouldn’t say it’s a bug, but a design failure. There should be no reason the game is this laggy(less than 1 fps in large-scale gvg). Ice wall should not be counting as a player per wall either. As for the snow rolling bug, im not sure if it de-syncs your character, but you cannot walk or cast spells until you relog. 1/2 my guild had to watch ourselves be farmed while stuck unable to cast.

The only temporary solution would be to remove ice wall and snow rolling, but I doubt imc would even do just that. This would also hurt cyros a lot.

The bug is not caused by Snow Rolling or Ice Wall directly, it is caused by a secondary effect. If you want to know what it is feel free to PM me, not interested in posting it. Also, it is a low chance so that is why it doesn’t always happen. A few guilds nowadays turtle their bridge with 5+ ice Walls at the start and attempt to bug as many people as possible and don’t even enter middle.

That’s why temporarily disabling it would help a lot, while they can (attempt to) resolve this issue. Ice Wall disabled would be better, and help a lot for the instability of this games GvG.

Please fix your stuff already.

@hkkim @STAFF_Max

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I’ve been getting a constant 1-5 FPS in gvg. Its literally unplayable. The bugs make it even worse. From lag, getting stuck or crashing whether its due to ice walls or even “trying” to spectate.

I’ve tried so hard to defend the game but I can only take so much. If it wasnt for battle league i’d quit a long time ago. Even then fighting kinos and with the only option to solo queue with people that have 6k hp only a few times a day makes me lose motivation to even play.

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Oh game is stable, very stable for an open beta game!

We are still playing open beta right?!

Probably not going to get any acknowledgement of this issue. GvG will just continue to be as bad as it is and controlled by bugs. There’s TP rewards for this system and it’s being abused this badly. My guild doesn’t even have any interest doing GvG because of these bugs.