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Guys.. warrior lose to cyro/psychokino

I was looking around the forums yesterday and watched some vids on youtube, what I saw is this unstoppable psychokino cyro3. with the ice shield, raise, gravity pole, are there any ways a warrior could win against these TT… or just a slice chance that we can pierce this unstoppable class in pvp.

Both Cryo and Psychokino got nerfed so they’re not OP anymore.

HOWEVER, Swordsman is still 80 - 90% a lost cause in PvP. Currently only Cataphract - Dragoon is truly viable with Doppelsoldner being a lesser chosen/less effective option.

for real?!! TT so my barbarian, corsair, fencer ain’t gonna work?! even a slice chance? this broke my heart…

the hook, the lots of stuns and the fencer combo won’t work in pvp? even if you practice practice practice.

Corsairs Iron Hook is really good in PvP, but the problem with it is it requires dependency on party members to both keep you safe while you’re rooted and to kill the trapped opponent all while dealing with everything else around them… So for as good of an assest it is, it’s flawed because people aren’t going to hand-hold you in PvP.

As for the stun and the combos… try getting in close enough to utilizes those abilities in the first place…

what if its just a playing around one on one

like a i’m betting with a friend i mean XD

In a 1v1 setting Iron Hook becomes near useless unless you’re Corsair 3 and have a pistol. Other than that, I hope you’re up against another Swordsman because in open duels skills don’t have the nerfs applied.

Just like how cryo kino always lose to fletcher 3 in pvp after the recent patch, swordsman can actually destroy fletcher 3 by timing your crossguard or shield right when they use their skill.

But yeah, wizard is usually the counter to swordsman.

Don’t listen to those unskilled player in telling you that swordie is useless. While I do agree that due to the matchmaking system you may lose hard when there is too many wizard on enemy team, you are the counter to cleric and archer class, which wizards hate.

Hate to say this, but shielding/ C blocking doesn’t destroy anyone… just slows how fast the Swordsman gets destroyed. As far as Crossguard goes… I’m not sure how that would work… does it stagger the fletcher even at a distance? does it have to be point-blank for it to take effect? If you can get the stagger at a distance that can really help close the gap and definitely get the Archers sh!t-wrecked, but unless the stagger works at a distance, using crossguard is the same as C blocking.

Also, since you yourself have no actual experience playing Swordsman, he shouldn’t really be taking your word on anything either.

damn… I wish i get to high level fast and see for my self which is actually “OP” to swordsman

I am gonna burst your bubble now… theres no OP swordsman… there is only Dead Hahaman

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dude… your getting it all wrong. swordies never OP i just wanna know which class a swordman totally can’t fight.

ohwww so she’s popular here huh :slight_smile:

Wizards kill Swordsman before getting near them.
Clerics are near invincible and will outlast Swordsman DPS.
Archers: see Wizards but only to a lesser extent.

‘popular’ probably wouldn’t be the right word =P

You can sprint and guard.

If you are holding guard for more than 0.5 seconds, that’s more of your personal skill problem than swordsman problem.

My guild leader is a highlander barb 3 doppel templar, and none of the physical dps in my guild can win in a duel against him. And our archer is actually top 50 in the ranking. His motto is ‘what’s broadhead? What’s dma?’

I’m basing all my swordsman argument from him, because he can actually rekt archer and cleric whenever I teamed with him or fight against him. Unfortunately, its still really hard for a swordsman to raise in ranking once you fall into the no pd zone because there is just no one to make use of the space you created.

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that’s what i wanted to hear. a slice chance, i’m off to practice swording XD

If someone is able to sprint, block an incoming arrow in and for 0.5 seconds consistently you either have the best internet the world could provide or some kind of 3rd party program is being used because that seems VERY unlikely at least to me. If someone else could confirm/do that, then sure, I’ll believe that and STILL say that that kind of skill requirement is absurd.

if wizards kill swordman before getting near them. I wanna know what skill does it.
Clerics are invincible… yeah maybe since I’m noob i can’t say ■■■■ XD!
archers, can kills swordsman quick, I think someone told me arrows could be blocked, what if we go pure con and some dex will that work?
sorry for being very curious