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Gung Ho VS Concentrate Calculator

SW3>Cor3>Barb1>Shinobi…

DEX = 150 capped (Is this good? Or should I cap it at 100 instead?)
STR = rest into str

1) Should I go with:
15/15 Gung ho, 10/15 Concentrate
or
10/15 Gung ho, 15/15 Concentrate
or
???

Thinking of ditching restrain… so I can put 10pts into something yeah…

2) Leather or plate armor?

If your gear give some block pen or you don’t mind being blocked by bosses, 100 is fine.

  1. I advise taking both and ditching out restrain.

2)Leather for critical rate and accuracy, Plate for survival.

I personally have both lvl 15 along with pb lvl 15 since I dont pvp too much.

Im full str, gungho gives 413 attack and concentrate deals 1538 damage. This literally makes my trash dragoon viable.

Does that mean you don’t have double slash? I’m not sure how I feel about that, double slash is actually an amazing skill unless you somehow can’t fit it into rotation before all other skills are off cooldown

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Yeah double slash is amazing, I use it on my corsair. On my full str build however, it feels slow. Most of the time leading to taking damage, thats why I dropped it.

This is the kind of thread I’ve been looking for. Thanks to OP and everyone for finally discussing the abilities post-overhaul.

So, I’ll ask my questions: which one would be more important for PvP, if either of them really matter at all?
My build, in the end, is going to be Sw3>Barb>Cors3>Murm or Sw3>Barb>Cors2>Fenc2. PB and Double Slash are maxed, Bash is 3 for a knockdown, and Restrain is probably going to be 5 too which leaves 17 skill points for both.
Should I go 10 in one, 7 in the other? Max one out and 2 in the other? What are peoples’ recommendations.

What is your status on your corsair and how you come up with such? Thanks!

Hi @migliole thank you really for sharing this, I think this is really important. Now I’ll just base my STR DEX allocation (155 pts on either) based on the information about accuracy and block pen. EZPZ!

The new scaling on both skill is nice addition, in shortcut it now gives:

Gung Ho 15lvl:
100 STR = ~68,6 attack

Conc 15lvl:
100 STR = 150 additional damage
100 DEX = 300 additional damage

Looking in the future (R9 and R10) I resigned from offensive skills in low rank classes (even droped highlander) since high rank ones will have new offensive skills to fill the rotation with higher numbers, where buffs like those will be usefull no matter what.

conc lv15 high damage + double slash lv5 it good for full str

I have 300dex and 250str on cors, (I use ellaganos cards, gladi bands and max peta etc.)
I have concentrate lvl15, pb lvl15, restran lvl10, doubleslash lvl5

On my Dragoon, I have 473str and 99 dex (will have more dex when I switch to hg purple set.)
I have gungho lvl15, concentrate lvl15, pb lvl15.

I am still thinking whether to cap my dex at 100 and use ellaganos card or cap my dex at 150 instead…

On both my Cor3shino and Monk3inq

I don’t really understand the formula but isn’t more easy get 1 or 2 lv6 yellow gem on gauntlet and gain +44 or 88 Block Pen than use points on DEX? :sweat_smile:

unfortunatley gunho is superior for str builds as the gung ho adds attack so it gets mulitplied with skills.

Btw bash 1 still has knockdown if you have the attribute, you just need to buy and then reset your skills, I just test.

People are saying that this does not work any more with the doppel skills, my token ran out + I’m going to test in 7 hours.

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Doppel skills specifically got a check where

If (Skill Level >= 6)
{ apply attribute }

You can still do it for just about everything else; just not for the doppel c3 attributes, so yeah it works for Bash.

If you plan to PVP, remember Gung Ho reduces your DEF.

I’d rather use concentrate on my lancer.

PVP is not all about doing the most damage, you need to survive too.

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So at least we have +2 free points on the swords, if we get bash for knockdown. Thanks for doppel’s feed back.

I guess I’ll place my 2 points in restrain or concentrate or PB hmmm

i think i gonna stick with sword2 barb3 doppel3, due to the extension of casting player debuffs in warcry … So maybe for me, it will be something like bash 1, pain barrier 10, (10/4) gungho or concentrate and retrains 5, or without restrain and the second buff in 9 instead of 4.

As for the question of which of the buffs to choose, I am inclined to gungho for not occupying buff slots, but have this defense reduction problem.