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[Guild vs Guild Poll] Do you prefer 15v15 or 10v10?

  • I prefer 15 vs 15
  • I prefer 10 vs 10

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i prefer 1 Hue vs 10 bots

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10 vs 10, For better Framerate. 15 vs 15 would be great, even 20 vs 20, but with the current game performance it sucks. No fun at all.

[SA] Silute

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I find it ridiculous to call it Guild vs Guild if not everyone in the guild can join. There should be no limit to the number of participants in Guild war. Some of you would argue that it would be terribly laggy if it’s 40v40 but that’s why the game needs optimization. Warmode on GvG greatly reduces lags.

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15vs15 mode would be way more interesting,compared with 10vs10 mode in which some unbalanced (broken)classes tend to have more advantage ,like clerics, which currently in TBL has destroyed the overall balance,left there no space for any other classes

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10v10

Server: Fedimian

The change last week was the best thing what could have happened to our server reviving the top-guild dominated gvg-action a bit by giving even smaller guilds the chance to win something.

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Not like every guild has that many people online at the same time. Only a few guild has 15+ players on at all time. That’s basically excluding smaller guild from GvG. Not to mention the insane amount of lag input resulting in more crashes/glitches. Even in 10 v 10 only 5-7 people actually show up for GvG.
That is if you can make it in without crashing/black screen.

Should spend time fixing bugs instead :beers:

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10v10 is much better because the game has no playerbase at all.
I’m all for 15v15+ GvG, but with the time it is on and the low amount of players, 10v10 makes it more interesting for more Guilds, instead of just the top Guilds.
Although it’ll probably s*ck for the big Guilds because a lot of players in their Guilds won’t be able to do it, or not as often as they used to…
It might make big Guilds split in half though, allowing more challenges and more Guilds in GvG, which is always nice and more fun.
Also less lag, of course.

Quite lame to have to get to that so more Guilds would join and to lower the FPS though… Shows in what kind of bad state TOS is.

Klaipeda.

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10x10
Silute here
/20characters

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I rarely participated in 15v15 GvG with my guild after encountering crippling lag and fps issues. I gave it another shot on the week of 10v10, and my experience was much, much, much better. My Fps was crisp and constant for once, team strategy actually existed instead of just cc face roll comps, and my commander seemed to be having a lot of fun calling shots and strategy as opposed to 15v15 battles. Every person I’ve talked to that actually GvGs has agreed that 10v10 was a much better alternative than the cluster ■■■■ that is 15v15. @STAFF_Yuri

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With our current playerbase I’d say 10v10 is a lot better as well. More competition, hopefully some big guilds will split up and get the competition going…

Also 10v10 FPS > 15v15 FPS…

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I prefer 10v10 but I want back the 4 matches per day instead of 2 matches

Klaipeda

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There isn’t point in doing 15v15 if 10 more people in the same screen will lower everybody’s FPS to 0’5.

Is this a serious poll?

This is a serious poll.
IMC just bring back 15vs15 and we are trying to show the community point.

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Yes this is a serious poll to collect data.
Overview of vote & opinion/reason per reply.

While 15v15 would be better if the game could actually support it, that’s not the case right now. Framerate problems are making 15v15 unplayable, and very few guilds can field full teams. 10v10 makes it easier to get enough people online and improves performance.

I’d like a guild alliance system that lets two or three guilds cooperate to form a full team, but that still leaves framerate problems. Ideally, if we could get good performance with 100 players around, a 50v50 alliance-based war would be better. Or maybe vary the number of players at different times so there’s variety?

Any words from mods??

10vs10 is not fair to guilds with many active members that want to gvg, it is very hard to choose only 10 people/match especially since we only get 2 matches per day now…
imc has to fix their game not nerf max nb of ppl allowed to gvg

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I can definitely see the points about 10v10, such as allowing smaller guilds to participate without a big disadvantage, and fps issues. But i prefer 15v15 because for guilds with more members, not everyone is capable of participating in gvg, and it really reduces viable classes/compositions for GvG. For example, there was never any space for me to bring my krivis3oraclekabbalist, because theres other classes that take priority, like cc and damage.

The bigger problem is the number of entries, with 10v10 and 2 entries, if you have over 20 people online, not everyone can participate. 10v10 with 4 entries, would be a decent solution for the most people.

Fedimian.

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