Make additional hour of GvG per day, but without rating(win/lose/TP and so on) at all, and without limit of times people can play. Now we can only play 2 times per day. Most of the times we just get weak opponent, win in 2 minutes and that’s all GvG, because there is only 1 real opponent in our server. It does not matter 10vs10 or 15vs15 when online is so low.
Fedimian.
10 vs 10 is better tbqh
10v10 is better coz tos coding cant handle 15v15
those cry and want to keep 15v15, its now time for u to make franchise/branches guild and dominate the queue
huehuehue
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i don’t think guild are meant do be composed by 10 people that’s more like a squad. I think most people prefer to be in a big active guild. Being in a guild is more than just gvg.
10v10 is not even called GVG, its like a larger TBL.
well, dont look for excuses plz as being a small guild, no body stops you to be a large guild, you guys just chose to be a small guild. whats so hard about inviting just 5 more people to be in ur guild? so you can be enough for 15v15. anyways, weaks always cry.
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try travian, heavy-diplomatic-real-time-strategy-war-game
they have franchise with guild as small as 2people.
gvg is not just 10musclebrain vs 10musclebrain
learn diplomatic/politic please
for those who thinks 10v10 is better is understandable because the fps problem.
but for those who thinks 10v10 is better becuase of that they are a small guild. OMG, can you cry harder please? 10 people is a small guild, then 15 people is a big guild? 5 people makes that much difference? or i assmue your guild master does not know how to invite 5 more people into guild
no…
leaving out fps issue and class imbalances
10v10 is good because its a destroy-each-other-tower kind of pvp… similar to moba…
its a small seek n destroy campaign in a limited time slot
u only need 100vs100 if its a seige mode where last week winner need to defend their castle from invader aka woe
so, for now, 10v10 fits the concept.
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Can we all agree that its about the TP and not the pvp?
Why?
Well… on my Server the 5vs5 is almost non existent. Even smaller guilds on this Server dont fill up the 10ppl. And its not only about the number of ppl: Its about classes and gear as well. If anyone thinks 10vs10 would improve the situation of smaller guilds - you are mistaken.
In fact it means that big guilds will only pick their best chars. Smaller guilds wont stand a chance if they dont try hard to farm gear and reroll chars. Big gvg guilds do all that crap. Farm everyday for better (pvp) gear, reroll to better gvg/pvp chars.
The only pro is the slight improvement in fps. But its only a quick fix - and no solution. If 2 divs spam their owls you will be down to 1 fps nontheless.
The true issue right now is that we can only 2 times a day. 2 times. 
Voted for 10v10, but there are merits for both formats. A good solution could be to have 2 GBL leagues :
- Pro League : 15v15
- Amateur League : 8v8, to really make it tailored for small guilds
When you queue for the first time of the week, you decide which league you’ll attend and it cannot be changed until the next week. Obviously the rewards will be adjusted, ranking becomes a top 5. But you gain slightly more TP by being 5th in Pro than 1st in Amateur.
Main problem is that it splits the participating guilds into 2 blocks that can’t be matched with each other. But the Amateur League could be filled by guilds that don’t even bother queueing right now because they get crushed all the time by powerhouses, and the higher TP rewards would motivate guild to go Pro as soon as they can get at shot at 5th place.
During 10v10 week there actually were two-sided matches between guilds that usually don’t have enough players and bigger ones. PVE is 5 man and everyone can farm gear and reroll characters. You do need to get ultrahardcore if you’re aiming for #1, but we’re talking about guilds in the middle of the rankings.
Regarding “why not just invite more players”, out of all the old PVP-focused guilds I fought when the game was new, only one is still strong in GBL. It must be hard to recruit when almost all guilds who try to end up disbanding.
Also, the 2 game a day bug (10v10 was a bug so this must be too, right? It wasn’t in the patch notes) is right up there with not being able to rejoin after crashing in the list of really stupid things that are ruining GBL. Even 4 matches are over too quickly.
like trade wins with your alt guild
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exactly
spam that gvg queue even with 1man franchise guild
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Our motivation to choose smaller GvG should never be framerate/lag, the game should be performing better :I
Everthing else is game
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I think that until they finally once and for all resolve the FPS issues, 10v10 is more tolerable. Every GvG we’ve had multiple people disconnect and the lag is near unbearable.
@Varmund statement is my sentiments. IMC needs to investigate into a more stable server which is a huge part of the problem for me.
GM_Orange says 50% of people want a 15x15 … but this results shows a diferent thing 
@STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Max @STAFF_John @STAFF_Ines Please, at least say “No.”
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your replies are as irrelevant as ever
don’t make assumptions about people you don’t know anything about
learn manners/common sense
aint u assuming something about me?
irrelevant? afaik, trading-win with alt guild is perfectly Legal.
manners? u being all defensive n take everything against ur opinion as an attack… must be good to be u
as far as 10v10 or 15v15, 10ppl gvg is better for current concept.
imc can have 15v15 on another content like woe
ur reply is irrelavent, assumptious, and offensive in my pov.
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no i’m not assuming anything I am stating the obvious, your sole purpose on this forum is to spread negativity.
I have not disrespected you with my reply, which is something I can’t say for yourself… you get what you give.
anyway I’ve given you 2 minutes of my time that is too much already
have a nice life