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[Guide] Top DPS 2hander Doppel Swordsman Build

Slight modification to your Highlander build…

To make leveling easier, go Highlander C3 then take Peltasta at rank 5. You won’t need peltasta till higher level dungeons anyway, nor for grinding mobs till grind starts in the 160s.

Slight modification to your Highlander build…

To make leveling easier, go Highlander C3 then take Peltasta at rank 5. You won’t need peltasta till higher level dungeons anyway, nor for grinding mobs till grind starts in the 160s.

Yes that slightly makes sense. But I enjoy having pelt for dungeons asap so 50’s,90’s,115,130,145,etc is being missed out if you go highlander right off the bat.

Actually only the 50, 90, and 115 are missed. You get Pelt shortly after that.

50 doesn’t need pelt because players at that level aren’t clearing dungeons any faster than they already can. 90 isn’t needed either since it’s mostly rushers and you can take out mobs almost as fast as autogrouping them. 115 is nice to have a pelt for but not required at all. You can benefit from Skull Swing instead for this dungeon.

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The 99% severely need taught how to play their class correctly as they took Keyboard warrior at rank 5 & have failed ever since :frowning:

no dex ? so it’s just an pve build
you can’t do anything against archer if you have lower than 200 dex

also without restraint or hook you are also an dead meat in pvp

It helps everyone else in your group, though. It’s a nice boost to archers

Can someone breakdown the pros and cons of HL3 vs barb3?

HL3 focuses more on skillspamming whereas barb DOES have some skill spam but also has buffs (frenzy, warcry) for good auto attack bonuses.

Hello,

So for endgame, they are “equal” ? Or one just slightly strong than the other one ?

And for weapon, both use 2h Sword ?

Of course, endgame you’d most likely want to aim for 2hander swords. However you also need 1hander sword + shield too because of peltasta and swapping back and forth to swashbuckle the mobs…

By 280 how much base con should a pure str doppel aim for? 50 or 100?

50-60 is ok if you alway party with cleric (even 30 is fine)

100 con is for safety when you solo or using DOV

after reading this part i stopped already,

giving no importance to DEX. this is just amazingly wow i forgot i was playing ToS already.

mobs gonna rekt this guy so hard not even 250CON would save you. specially spell caster mobs that deals 1.2-1.6k per atk.

oh wait. i forgot this is a ‘theoretical build’

mybad.

Thanks a lot for the guide, well-written and informative. It was a pleasant read.

Legit question. How viable endgame (pvm only) are these builds, compared to stuff like Fletcher 3/Scout 3 for example? You mentioned that the Peltasta 1 makes it viable for 280+, but do you deal any actual damage on high levels?

Also, how is barb compared to highlander? I wouldn’t really mind the slow leveling on either of the two, what I am concerned about is the endgame. I hear barb used to be awesome when the cap was 100-ish, but now he seems to be almost a running joke…

Of course Con doesn’t save people
Con isn’t a saving stat. Outside of passive/active block rate it provides no defense, its just flat health that you look for when you can’t survive a hit.
Outside of that all your real sustainability comes from the Cleric.

Not like dex will save your ass again magic so what’s the point of your post?

You do realized that you CANT dodge again magic attack right?

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you are right, but wait, it says " TOP 2HS DOPPEL SWORDSMAN BUILD"

if we want a meat shield, that isn’t 2HS, we might be on the wrong section.

like how ‘TOP’ korean swordie build gets fvked from recent patch and everyone gets to re-roll C3 cata to dragoon.

TOP builds as always.

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My boy, you need to get the idea that "tank have to hold C " out of your head.
If you actually own a Pelt cata you will realize the that Pelt Cata have the luxury of not needing to hold C every time due to its superior mobility.

You can outrun pretty much any melee attacks, resulting in zero damage dealt, which leave the rest to range attack + magic attack. Range attack can be slightly negated through guardian which gives increased evasion, while finestra gives increased block rate at the cost of - 11 evasion only. Pelt cata also have +25% block rate which helps negate some of the downside of having fewer dex.

This is why so many people consider dex not a priority for cata (another is the fact that hop finestra gives bonus crit chance). Saying that a Pelt Cata would do no damage because he’s holding down C all the time is just grossly skewing the scenrio in your favor

The only time a Pelt Cata should ever hold down C and does nothing is when all his skills are on CD, or when he’s out of mana or when he has positioned himself in the middle of a massive AOE combo and all the mobs are gathered around him. This is to help the actual DPS (namely the wiz and archers) DPS easier.

Most of other time Pelt Cata are doing the exact same thing as “dps cata”, run around, charge Earth Wave, charge Doom spike, Rush, Stabbing…etc.

If you ever see a Cata sitting in the corner pressing C, that cata is just bad.