Nothing yet but they said they’ve been working on them like on one of the weekly Q and A… Hopefully soon lol.
sw3 hop3 might be the next in thing.
Sw>pelt2 is actually the turtle dragoon.
I don’t think high2 will mix in well with dragoons though. Just my opinion.
Pelt>Hop>Dop>drag2 (i think dopel dov cancels off with aspersion and guardian…)
the new guardian buff is literally @_@…
Guardian + aspersion = all physical damage 1 damage.
I wonder how many of these fencers here will reset to Sword 3 fencers 
yeah I’m leaning towards that sw3-hop3 variant. might also try a murm tank but I’m playing casually right now, might not have the time for it.
how does a pelt3-rod3-murm fair? offensive and defensive wise. it’s the only murm variant I feel like playing. maybe high-pelt2-rod3-murm for that cartar.
lol I might be one of them. 
when rank reset is released, I don’t have any character that I wanted to reset but sw3 really seems like the better choice for Fencer right now.
you will cry on attributes, no, it’s not even those 1% damage ones that you’ll cry
about 17m for the useful ones, another 17m for sub optimal ones
oh wow that bad. what do you recommend for a murm? I saw that you were planning to merge this into 3 guides? fencer, dop and murm right?
yeah, I might cancel the murm one,
I plan on investing on fencer and doppel only.
I don’t do afk farming and got tired of 130/145 full runs so 290 and saalus are the only money generators i have
for murm I prefer Pelt3>rodel3>murm,
your shinobi “might” be crap in the future without armor break from pelt3
Pretty much that. Murillo is one giant black hole . It’s optimization is still base on strike debuff then slapping it hard.
So Rod is highly advised to pick up (these day people pick rod shinobi for the burst)
The damage is subpar without high invested item + attributes
Well. We have seen what it can do with a shield… ( 1 damage in solmiki at 10f from both magic and physical.) …
i literally go… oh it’s ktos and it’s over transcend shield + lolopanther and accessories…
it’s pretty much the same to SR.
No funds ? Go home.
Now that i think of fencer isn’t as expensive as compared to those classes. :V
I think base attributes on SR are much better compared to murm. and you can just focus on damage gears.
Murm you have to focus on everything lol
still kinda expensive if you want to ask me…
(since the bread and butter 3 skills (con fire , lima and Retreat shot must be max).
The pistol and bow will be the pain.
Agree on that. They need practically need all of their skill set from C2-C7
Shooting star, targe, shield bash, and Pelts Umblow + butterfly urgh the marnee. Might be able to shrink skill rotation. Well preference here.
Well at least the burst length is 10 seconds ( slithering + high kick)
yeah when I got back and was thinking of doing full runs again but I already felt tired just thinking about it. lol
at least what attribute level before I can notice the damage? I’m thinking 50 won’t be enought. and what skills are we talking about.
shinobi is just no for me. too much setup required.
so true. whenever I see videos being posted in the ktos thread I cry because I know their items are far beyond my reach lol.
oh last, if I’d go do a murm (balanced one at that if possible, atleast a decent damage dealer and damage mitigation) how do I handle the stats? is it still full dex? lol
first step:
70 butterfly and 50 shooting star (or more)
next step:
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/115013
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/115012
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/115008 (last priority)
^ these are the ones I was talking about earlier, 9m to max each
if it’s a non pvp build, somewhere around 0-100 con, rest dex
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if it’s a non pvp build, somewhere around 0-100 con, rest dex
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Can run with 20 Con. the new shields give too much con. To the point a Non Con investing creature can get as high as 40k hp.
ya, that’s why I put 0-100, I’m actually at 0 con until I decided to throw all the extra points into con instead
at least it saves you from Vilkas archers, if you know what i mean
Hahahaha… Yea the build up point before we attain our transcend gears.
ahhhh well. 
but I can see the potential. I just don’t know if I can still be able to farm that much silver. I surely did before but I don’t know now. lol.
even with the weap and shield investment, you’d need at least 2 prac right? I guess I’ll pass on that too much investment.
you can get away with five hammers, just get the shield.
the 1-h 315 purple is still a good choice though, specially if you are using nuaele
2 each RIP. All hail 2 hand users.
problem with main and sub weapon users. RIP prac
it’s too good to pass up atleast imo. it’s our redemption against those magics lol. I’m guessing I’ll also have a bad time soloing 130/145 dg with this char, no? I also saw the update with the dgs. I don’t want to make another char (sc3) just for farming.
Just run it through 130(new 140) get 250k + peta and sell them.