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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

what do you think about SW2pelt1Hop2Fencer3?

I don’t like it personally, it works if you like switching…but

You can only spear lunge once before epee garde, your epee garde buff will be gone if you try to use spear lunge again the second time.

It feels uncomfortable (for me) to use, I don’t like having to spear lunge monsters everytime before doing my bursts, meanwhile for barbs you just warcry/coquille things and destroy them, no switching needed, it’s effective as well.

hop 2/3 > fencers maximizes pierce bursting, if that’s what you want. Might as well take hop3 for spear throw instead of sw2

can i reach 330 solo with this build :
Sw1-highlander1-barb3-fencer3 …or do i need to go doppel…im at 169 lvl so i need to decide…i know that fencer need peltasta for 25% hp and 18% evasion…but i dont want to level another swordman from the start again…

You can, but that build really fits doppel more.

Doppel can make their lower rank skills bettter through DOV, we only have lunge aside from cleave so HL skills become weak later on even against cloth monsters as fencer.

You can ask @Kascly he has the exact build

but I’d recommend doppel

ive got the highlander just for cartar ,because doppel and fencer lack of strike type atacks …

Do not attempt hop 2 as a beginner fencer. I personally think barb 3 is still generally the best.

for doppels that’s a big problem

for fencers you can force pierce attacks vs strike types, damage isn’t very bad.

One thing that I learned from Fencer is that you don’t have to worry about defense type.

The logic behind Fencer is to make pierce damage an almost if not invincible damage type, through ignoring defense, bonus % damage, high critical chance and critical damage, all monopolized by pierce skills that Fencer has.

The real problem of Fencer is not damage, but how you will get there. And believe me, having support skills (CC and buffs) are actually better than non-scaling damage.

yesterday we kill rexipher with 1 pd2 full supp/ 1 dragoon 2 and 1 elememe
we got rank 1
i dont need composee

Well, everyone plays what wants. A fencer skipping a very good skill is epic.

Isn’t Rexipher the bastard that drains your SP, is he? So you can’t even spam Composee if you wish.

Mathematics and reality have proven that without Composee you will lose a chunk of dps.

@Lostac: How much damage can you deal with Composee atm? With Epee on of course. I haven’t touched the game for a while so I have no idea

Chances are you weren’t the reason why your party got rank 1

yeah a dragoon lvl 276 and a plage doctor focused on heal are the reason

Well I mean not sure if sarcastic answer since you threw in focused on heal but just in case.

  1. Rexipher is now a previous generation world boss. 275 is typically within reason to fight it. The dragoon no doubt did more DPS than you if they actively hit (especially with skills). 276 isn’t that far behind 321. Level in this game is pretty irrelevant. The only (relevant) difference is 45 base phys attack and some stat points. This can easily be made up with gear, attributes, etc. I don’t know any of their equips/attributes or yours, but yeah. Being lv 321 also might be detrimental for rexipher compared to 276 because your critical rate actually goes down as you level up more, and the difference between 280 and 330 is a pretty significant drop. Crit rate > a bit of phys in almost every case

  2. You left out the elementalist. Rexipher is ghost type. All magic DPS does +50% damage against rexipher by default and melee is -25%. That includes you. Elementalists have an easier time with SP management at rexipher because they can just run in, drop skills, and dip out. I think maybe frost cloud won’t hit it but this can be made up with other skills depending on their r7/r8 choice(s)

  3. We weren’t told/shown how many other parties were there and their compositions (if any). There’s not much of a reason to fight previous gen world bosses anymore so I can’t imagine the competition was fierce

Ok

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i believe his fencer3 make the most DPS here, not elememe not dragoon.
serpentine debuff increase his damage tremendously, no doubt about that
but i just quite surprise, that there’s actually a fencer that didnt take compose for its 0 CD

highlander used to be a thing when its skyliner got 0 CD
and now its fencer turn with its 0 CD compose

inb4 composee 3 charges 15 second cd LOL

@hienng1991

17k-20k per hit, level 1 (3) composee, 50 attributes.
+6 untranscended venier, 700+ PA

I did see someone doing 30k per hit on my server, must be on 90s attribute range with a better venier, I’m holding off for a better rapier to transcend.

Serpentine debuff also increases the damage of the dragoon tremendously

No wonder why Fencer 3 is the top dps in wb. That’s 30-40k dps or more if you can spam Composee twice in a second. Even Fletcher cannot do that