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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

Class and Rank Swordsman
#4616

nothing is overkill, even with high evasion at 1.2k mobs hit nicely

I still recommend SW3>Pelt>X>Fencer 3 if it’s sw3 variant.

Taunt is also very useful for solo and parties, peltasta has two indespensable skills.

you can even put hop1 there instead of cor1 or barb1 to get stabbing/pierce.

Evasion is never overkill, if imc does nothing with leather mastery we will all soon switch to plates giving us less evasion on boots and no mastery

(this is just my opinion, @Belumont has sw3-barb2-fencer if you are interested)

edit: dont worry about spear lunge, a lot of people are playing dragoon atm, at least on telsiai

#4617

I’m not usually one for self-advertising. But, If you’re looking into SW3 Fencer variation you can look at these. My Fencer is Fairly geared with Lv40+ attributes Sw 3 is mainly for the nice CC’s you get and utility it comes with.

I’m not exactly Fencer3 yet (Only Lv250 atm)
But, I’m still melting mobs pretty quickly.

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#4618

i take it frenzy doesnt work well with cryo. as the ice wall skill they use on bosses sabotages the stacking rate.

#4619

composee lv 0
maxed sept

ABSOLUTE MADMAN

Sept is my favorite skill too, too bad the scalling is so poor, mine is lv 7 atm, I was going to do the lv 10 lunge/lv 10 sept route when I was fencer 2 but then the info about fencer c3 came and with 4 new skills… I starteds saving points to max epee and balestra on the go. And I’m still not sure how I will rework my build after a possible skill reset.

But how you… managed… to play… without Composee?

Also, regarding skill gems, IMO there’s is no gem worth for us at the moment, (we don’t have c2/c3 skills gems). the most decent one is lunge (decent scalling with a +1 since you get also more evasion bonus). Your Sept Gem on a Virtov Leather Shoes for an extra show off burst is nice I think, but they are not worth the trouble of the hunt IMO, and I prefer a two slot boots with 2 fat evasion gems/hp gem/maybe even mdef gems after the change.

Currently I bought only some low rank gems like Iron Hook, Crossguard (now I need a nulis for it, lol), and for my other chars like Psychic Pressure, Gravity Pole, Raise, Discerning Evil, Multishot and etc…

Can’t wait for the day they will implement Epee Garde gem, people will hunt this harder than the Running Shot from Quarrel Shooter.

#4620

i dont like composee and i prefer to use the set up that im using atm
its really good tbh

#4621

The only gems I feel are worth socketing are ones for buffs that scale well between levels, such as Running Shot or Epee Guard, or skills that people are buying from other players (Buffs, Skill Scrolls, Potions, Repairs, etc)

Until there’s an Epee Guard gem, I don’t think there’s a monster gem worth it for Fencers. Most offensive skills I feel aren’t worth the slot, but perhaps it depends on how often you can use it and how much more damage that extra level is, but I feel just better stats would scale better for the entire fight than just boosting one skill’s damage, unless you rely on it like Running Shot.

#4622

I wish we could get some better Rapier designs we get those pathetic re-skins so much. I wish we could get something more elegant and awesome maybe like this.

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#4623

Guys is it better to go SW2-pelt-Hop2-Fencer 3 or SW3-Pelt1-barb1-fencer??? :smiley:

#4624

I don’t see the purpose for Hoplite. I think Fencer has all the skills it needs.to deal damage, as any time you big skills are on cooldown, you’ll be using Composee. Finestra gets cancelled if you weapon switch from what I read, and same should go for Epee Guard as it requires a Rapier to activate.

Peltasta is a requirement I think. The taunt has been a godsend for bringing monsters in, especially ones that do not aggro, and the 25% HP boost is always nice to have.

#4625

wow 0 compose
fabolous

#4626

Well, I’m seeing a bunch of SW3>Pelts now on mission queues.

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#4627

So just a quick question. Which plate armor pieces would you recommend going with? and would you do 3/4 or full 4/4?

#4628

Yup,working on mine. I have SW3>Pelt1>Cors1 and I can’t wait for fencer.

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#4629

Full Grynas or Grynas + Vubbe

Virtov works but make sure you refine it to +4-+7

#4631

Same enhance range for grynas I’m guessing. Thanks a bunch

#4632

Following Sw3 - Pelt 1 - x - Fencer build also
Dunno wether to go barb 1 or corsair 1…
This has become tree of AA , hope it shines later. =P

#4633

So hop 2 spear lunge is bad??? :frowning:

#4634

Okay, added SW3 variant(s) in the build list.

hope this helps people on what to decide after taking SW3 - Pelt

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#4635

Hello Lostac. I still looking for more informations to Fencer and Doopel. Idk what i make. If i choose fencer, which build is better? Sw3-pelt-corsair-fencer 3?
Should i use full leather or plate vubbe? Do you have any videos that i can see how stronge the fencer is?
Thanks guy D:

#4636

I can’t explain much about doppel anymore, I’ve only played until C2.

IMO Doppel requires support to shine perfectly, but they are good at dealing AOE Damage.

Fencers work on any situation, but are slightly weaker in terms of trying to deal aoe dps or dealing with a map filled with cloth monsters.

If this is your first time playing swordsman classes I recommend Pelt - barb 3 - fencer 3, you can go SW3 path but you have to know why you picked it, I explained the advantages on the first post builds list, you can maybe read it and figure which one you’d pick or like

I use:
Full Leather Virtov
Leather Virtov + Vubbe Gloves

Full Grynas plate
Grynas plate + Vubbe Gloves

use vubbe gloves only when you need it, ex, dealing with multiple monsters.