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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

This is what i wanted do there, just stand on the edge and bash everyone.

I got atm fencer 2 ready to fencer 3 when rank8 comes

But i want get ready Dragoon too for test both of then and see what one i like more but im not sure about the build early patch

My 2 options are Highlander 3 - Hoplite 2 - Dragoon 2 or Highlander 2 -Hoplite 2 - Dopple 1 - Dragoon 2

My question is what one give me better dps if Highlander 3 with skyleaner lvl10 + Skull Swing for broke armor + Vertical Slash buffed OR Deeds of valor for + 50% p . atack and Cyclone

What your opinions my boys? <33

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Doppel will bring more for you than highlander 3. Deed can easly overlap skull swing and cyclone is godlike.

I have 50 STR, 35 CON, and everything else in DEX.

I would say that it depends a lot of what you want to achieve.

It is ‘safe’ to invest at least 50 points;

I myself am a tank build for PVP with 26 STR and 75 con (lv152) invested and I have little issues with damage. (I’'m putting more STR later because of block pen though)

One thing I can affirm is that skill attributes+a nice weapon gives more damage than STR. And the proof is that I, with maxed Thrust lv1 (yeah, that spammable skill from Sw circle 1, took it because of lack of damage skills of tank build) have been getting a lot of number 1s on dungeons and missions.

I didn’t understand myself at first (because for some time I use high guard+guardian which leads to anything I do to deal 1 dmg).

But then I remembered that I’m dealing 2000 damage on a rank 1 skill that costs 8 sp. Imagine when I max Composee attribute.

I remember someone said is better spam Thrust than AA.
Never tested this myself.

unless they attribute thrust like 50%, AA will outdps thrust because its animation is faster and even more if you have more line of damage like sacrament+cafrisun+blessing. skills tend to only have 1 line of damage per hit and blessing increases damage on each lines of damage. and I oneshot with AA with this setup (without cafrisun) but not with thrust or bash

Anyone know the drop chance of Jolly Roger per lvl?

I might regret this later, but I currently have about 120 invested strength in my HL3 >sair>Fencer. For the time being I’m bumping up my con and plan to only invest dex for the rest of my time up until fencer. For the time being, though, I don’t regret the str investment as it helps with bleeding damage by a lot.

Actually, depending on the ping, the delay between one hit and another is almost the same as AA.

It is also wise to note that by the time you achieve Fencer, it is not advised to AA too much, so spammable bursts are actualy better.

Attaque Composee hits twice and has much higher base damage than Thrust, so it’s not even a matter of AA vs. 0CD skills anymore, it’s just that Thrust is god awful.

EDIT: I originally said Coquille like an idiot

Aren’t you talking about Flanconnade?

And I’m not defending Thrust specifically. My original case was that a spammer like Fencer does not need too much STR to deal damage, just attributes and a good weapon. That is actually the DEX over STR theory thingie, right?

Thrust was just an example, which happens to be something I use often as a Peltasta2>Rodelero have not so much dps and high SP cost, while Thrust is like 8 sp/hit for a reliable damage to fill all those levels until you get to Fencer.

I meant Composee******
But even with Flaconnade, it’s more of a utility for the block than a spammable attack.

Well, Flanconnade is meant for blocking anyway.

And yes, by the time you’re a Fencer, the ideia is to retire Thrust and use Composee for eternity.

I think str vs dex in regard to Composee depends on how much you invest in it. Low lvl Composee = High Str, because you want to bump up that base damage. High lvl Composee = High Dex for better crits. Of course, Venier just throws stat theory out the window so fencers need high dex regardless

Epee Garde is what really makes us build lots of DEX nowadays (cause we can’t have a priest>krivis full SPR bot yet -_-).

Actually, if IMC made this game like Granado Espada, we could actually have a priest>krivis bot full SPR bot hehe. Suddenly all Fencer would build full STR. Actually everybody would build full STR in that scenario.

~wishful thinking~

IDK about the drop chance of Jolly Roger. I have mine at lv 10 and look what I got! (Taken from TOS INA)

Hmm, so actually swordsman have Doppel and Corsair to grind-fiesta.

I think going Swordsman C3 / X C1 / Corsair C1 / Fencer C3 is nice idea… but what pick else? Peltasta?

Yes, Peltasta is the best choice, imo.

You could also fit in High if you want a good strike skill or Barb for Cleave buffs.