Edit: I rly bad at reading nowdays… just what tampon said below… shields go into the armor slot… and top/bottom armors with yellow gems are better for def than shields because of this.
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Hell’s Demon Pike has provides more HP than Catacombs Rapier, and can provide a much higher attack stat (higher base, 3 sockets) in-case the user has a Hunter or whatever.
Shields use up Armour slots, not Weapon slots
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hi, i have sr with hoglan.
1x catacomb rapier vs didel tower shield? whats diference and with or without upgrades and gems?
1x virtov plate robe with red gems, upgrades? and lvl for gems?
thxx!!!
Magas sword can be a good weapon too since it gives HP and evasion.
Guinea is the “best” free companion atm, but it has no food fill up his stamina
( it eats alfafa, an item you can obtain from guild events but no1 knows where to get it)
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I didn’t consider Hell’s Demon Pike.
Anyway, looks like nobody wanna that pike so I took 2 recipes at 15k from the market right now.
Thx for the good call!
I didn’t notice that, removed shields as an option, since they gain nothing from gems (plus virtov plate rob is just better).
I considered magas sword has a cheap option in the 1st place, but It’s a bit worst then both catacomb rapier and hell’s demon pike, since you only gain 8% evasion (5evasion on your char if u equip 2x magas) vs the missing hp. Still a perfectly fine option, as most weapon with 1.4k+ hp. You can even consider catacomb mace if you have it already on some cleric ALT 
I would go:
virtov plate robe (+1 at the maximum, 10% phisical def gain is not worth the cost to enchant the armor) with lvl 5 red gems
and one between the discussed weapons.
Red gems are better on top & bottom for pets IMO (you gain 25% of the hp vs only 10% of the phisical defense value).
1 red gem lvl 5 on pet:
789hp = 197 hp on you (rounded down)
1 yellow gem lvl 5 on pet:
50 phisical defense = 5 phisical defense on you
For the exact value if you want to make comparison and then choice.
As I see it phisical defense stacking over HP defense stacking should be only considered if you have already too many HP on your char no matter what.
Sadly, the formula 25%Hp vs 10%phisical defense vs 8%evasion gives HP a big advantage. I honestly have no idea why they did this balance but it’s what is given to us.
Will derail for a second. For hunters sub weapons are better…
Yeah I just wanted to react to your def suggestion…and in that case it would be top/bottom armor with yellow gems.
…and personally because I have a retard build… 
I need def or evasion. I have a mounted Mergen and I do hop off for arrow sprinkler than hop back…so I actually lose the HP all the time…
Anyway this database is awesome if you wnat to look for stats on gear:
https://tos.neet.tv/items?group=Weapon&stats=ADD_DEF&order=statd&f=1
That 315 weapon would be awesome… XD …the others are… 
But that won’t be a top priority for a long time for me. (don’t even know if that weapon is actually avaible or not :D)
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I don’t think people are willing to spend Practoniums on their pets 
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I do have an SR 3 AND an hackapell.
I do indeed stack phisical defense and magic defense on the char, while I search the best way to gain HP.
To me, the best way to gain HP is:
- headslots ( I do have 3x bifecta headslots, slot 1 hp + crit atk, slot 2 hp + crit atk, slot 3 crit atk + phisical atk)
- pet HP stacking
I’m aware that a single person could be interested more into phisical defense or even evasion, I’m just saying that 25% HP is so much better then 10% phisical def/ 8% evasion that is worth build it around, if you want to optimize both your pet and yourself.[quote=“Composition, post:12, topic:347556”]
Will derail for a second. For hunters sub weapons are better…
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I have no idea how to gear an hunter or tho I care honestly, this topis is done for chars that will mount the pet, not use it in combact but thx for the link, hoping people will not misunderstand this guide as general. This is ONLY for riding classes.
That’s why I’m hoping for white recipes. someday, oh someday the’ll have to come.
isn’t shield put in pet armor item?
hunter with 2didel tower shield (red gemx2)
and 2 bow look so op
as mount class, hamster is fine replacement for penguin
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The Hoglan of my SR wears a Beetleback, and gives my SR ~3.9k HP.
Confirmed, shields occupy ARMOR slot and NOT weapon slot.
My bad, I did remove didel tower shield from the options of suggested items to wear.
Beetleback is a decent replacement over virtov plate robe, but you do loose the 2x slot for red gem (at lvl 5 another 1.5k ish HP) and you go from 140 phisical def to 40. Not BiS but cheap alternative.
Farmed 2x Pikes in a little less then 1h, updated my Akke 
thx again for the upgrade over catacomb rapier.
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Beetleback look so expensive compare to it’s value
interesting , very nice infos here 
2 bows and 2 didel tower shield, thats my current setup. sad thing about this is, the setup is not for riding but for specifically for Hunters to boost their pet damage
Let me say once again this is NOT a post for hunter or a post for pet damage.
This is ONLY a topic for riders, if you are hunter // want to maximize pet dmg for afk farming your set up should be completely different.
And btw for hunters didel tower shield is ofc great: they do occupy armor slot while giving the pet access to 4x red gems. Since didel tower shield is an off hand that means +440phisical atk to your pet (once again, going in the pet “arnor” slots), plus whatever weapons you are giving to the pet.
and… what is the best?
i have sr with hoglan.
1x catacomb rapier vs didel tower shield? whats diference and with or without upgrades and gems?
1x virtov plate robe with red gems, upgrades? and lvl for gems?
thxx!!!